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what is happening ladies and gentlemen

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thank you for joining us here at the

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garage each and every friday night i

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know it's a slight change of times what

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i had going on before but i appreciate

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you making the change with me and coming

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on over let's give it a shout out randy

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cruz unless the ones got it first i see

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gold position going to rainy cruise here

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tonight john music who was my guest last

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week if you guys did not catch the

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episode john the episode is back up we

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were to go get that audio out of there

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for you that they took us down for and

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we're back up and running so if you guys

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haven't caught john's episode with me

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please check that out from last week we

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have nightmare getting the bronze

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position as rainy and john both got gold

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and silver we got wes h thank you for

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coming hanging out with us tonight who

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else we got in here let's see i know um

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i think it was uh ghost dragons yes

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ghost dragons that's okay one got by you

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got through our internet somehow that's

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okay what no shame in the game uh you're

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you're a good soldier you you keep them

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off of us almost every week one's

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managed to get through you know that's

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what's gonna happen

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uh who else we got kelly lewis thank you

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for being here tonight brie and jamie

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with that one demos abducted by aliens

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says let's go

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enzo my man my brother what is shaking

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how are we doing this fine evening we're

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already getting

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butt rated and butt love tonight 509

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divine pines dude had it so shiny i know

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guys i shaved that bad boy right on down

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you guys like it

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i think that's the look i'm gonna stick

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with i tell you what

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enough of the hat game right be proud of

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your head be proud of your body spooky

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thank you so much for all the love you

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guys have over there i want to apologize

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too right off the bat i was telling sev

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if she's backstage for us right now

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that i i don't know what's been going on

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this whole week i couldn't even i didn't

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even have a voice yesterday so

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we're gonna see how the voice hangs in

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there as we continue to get all the love

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from you guys thank you so much for for

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about raiding the ufo garage here

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tonight um we thank you very much for

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tuning in like i said you know

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do your best i guess to deal with me i

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know we don't sell them how it would

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normally sound that's why i got sev here

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i was telling us i said listen i'm

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setting you up you're setting up to be

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the golden star for the night more than

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you already are kelly lewis thank you

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for being here as well

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um and then really quick too guys

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my guest next week is going to be thin

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lizzie borden as well as scary gary and

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i'm very excited for this one they both

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obviously experiences as individuals as

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well as a couple and i'm very excited to

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kind of just sit down with them and have

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a nice laid-back conversation that we

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have you know joe and ben and everybody

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who's been here before

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knows that they've set up a great

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community to allow experiencers to come

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in and just share their uh stories no

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matter how

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you know famous or non-famous they might

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you talk to anybody and ask them have

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you ever experienced anything weird and

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it it's pretty amazing when you what

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people will tell you when you just give

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them a chance to open up so

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uh let's see oh yes no sev is a

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beautiful woman uh i can see her

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backstage or no she's uh we don't oh we

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gotta smile she says oh she says she

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says thank you very much for that so

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really quickly too guys before i kick

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that off i just want to mention this is

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one of the small thing i hate to even

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bring it up but

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just to get it out of the way we talked

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about this last time we're going to keep

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talking about it

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um

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youtube takes 40 percent of of all the

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hard work that you guys put in for the

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hard money that you guys have earned and

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so we have changed up by putting our

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paypals and our cash apps and venmo try

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to make as many options as we can for

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you guys if you would like to donate to

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the boys here at the garage and myself

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uh please feel free in the show notes we

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have all that link for you guys now just

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know they are indicated so if you

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specifically want to donate to joe and

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ben even though we're kind of we're a

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collective group of guys we're all doing

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the same work but if you want the

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donation to go to one person or the

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other it is all indicated in case that

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matters to you and it's just it's gonna

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save us a lot more money and honestly

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you too i mean we're talking almost 40

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percent of everything you guys donate to

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us it's just strictly going to youtube

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so if you could kind of start to

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transition that that would be amazing

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but super chats are always welcome and

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they are a great way to support the show

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and if you do do that i'm super excited

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about this ben sent this over to me last

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week which is that every quarter we will

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choose a group to donate 20 of our

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earnings to help those in need of extra

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support

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this quarter we chose anomaly archives

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let's help anomaly our guys find a new

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home if you'd like to donate directly to

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them

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uh here's that link as well and i'm

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going to copy and paste that for you

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guys and put it into the chat right now

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and like i said we're also donating that

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to the community content as a whole so

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that anything that's going on going

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forward whether it be

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events venues anything like that

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it may not be that much but we're doing

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our part to build a help out because

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it's helped us so much as a community as

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individuals i should say as well as

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those we've been able to interact with

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and hang out with in the community so

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let me just drop this over in the chat

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once again if you'd like to help them

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out that is going to be right there

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all right let's see what else we got no

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more super chats

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jamie and bree knows what's up they say

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no more super chats that's right

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uh yeah it used to be 30

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certain markers then they they bump up

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to that 40 percent uh so anytime we had

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those big tips anything that was like 25

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thank you for being here tonight all

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right guys enough of me rambling i

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believe that concludes all of the

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paperwork to get out of the way before

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we bring in the reason you guys are all

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here tonight which is sev

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talk to share her story and her

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really quick to you guys let me also put

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this up on the bottom just put this up

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at least all right here we go

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now we put this up

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oops it didn't even pop up you guys know

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i've done this many times here we go

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all right before we bring her in guys

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sephtuck is a speaker author spiritual

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counselor and lifelong experiencer

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originally from istanbul turkey she

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not knowing english as she started first

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grade and earned a bachelor of science

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degree in the biology from loyal

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university

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sev's et contact started at age 10 which

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she kept a secret until 2017 when grace

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burned a red x mark in her back the ct

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contact prompted her to come out in 2018

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as a speaker at aliencon and through her

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book you have the right to talk about

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aliens or excuse me you have the right

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to talk to aliens

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endorsed by renowned ufo researcher

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she is currently working on her next

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book alien wisdom sev is featured in the

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physical contact excuse me ufo physical

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world speaks at conferences and is

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honored to be the master

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of ceremonies at mufon's international

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symposium in denver in july 2022 which

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experiencer resource team ert

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sev helps experiencers around the world

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she also offers guidances to experiences

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excuse me experiencers through tell me

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your et story on her website

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planetsev.com

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her monthly newsletter and her youtube

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channel alien spirit tv seth's newest

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created to expand one's paranormal

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abilities well that'll be interesting

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excuse me the six module course includes

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the newest insight research written

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videos on how to strengthen your psychic

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abilities and the physic for him a live

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interaction zoom session with sev

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for the past 12 years sev has been

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conducting soul sessions with clients

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around the world providing

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inter-dimensional guidance to activate

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successful and dynamic life

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a planet and star system is named after

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her in star wars galactic system i did

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self lives in her excuse me on the inner

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banks of north carolina and is available

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for speaking arrangement and cons and

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consultation and med and media

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appearances

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and in saying all that guys i would like

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to actually go to the right screen so i

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can actually bring in sev whoops did i

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lose sev no here it is i got too many

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screens open sev

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thank you for being on the ufo garage

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tonight we're in the uh on the other end

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of it which is

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old blue with big willy so thank you for

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being here tonight and guys everything i

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is linked in the show notes and i do

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have links those that i will be dropping

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periodically throughout the night so

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please know if you are interested in any

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one of those things please scroll down

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and they are all listed individually for

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your convenience i don't think we could

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have made it much more convenient for

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you so please please go check it out for

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sure her youtube channel wherever she

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would like you to check it out so seth

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thank you for being here tonight

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good evening everyone i'm very happy to

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be here with you thank you

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oh thank you for uh making the time like

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i said i know it's a it's a little later

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in the evening but

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sometimes that's the way it goes i mean

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it's uh

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who knows the winter times i feel like

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you know what what is it right now 10 10

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30

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in the summer time come on there's still

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some times i'm out in the bonfire at 10

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30. you know what i mean the sun's maybe

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gone down not that long ago but like in

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the winter time it's like 10 30 i'm like

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oh my gosh it's been dark for hours i

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need to go hibernate i don't know

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everywhere i am so it's just

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oh man

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yes so thank you for being here once

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again and like i said i will make sure i

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drop these over here in the

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the notes as well as in the chat for

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people that would like to check out your

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books because you do have two of them

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now so let's let's get that out of the

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way because like i said people always

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forget they always mention stuff at the

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end and i always think it's important to

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get that out of the way in the beginning

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so

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what was your first book and what

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inspired that let's start there

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uh the first book is you have the right

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to talk to aliens

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and that came out in august 2018 and

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that was my coming out

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uh

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i had the

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the encounter with the grays uh in 2017

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here on the inner banks of north

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carolina where they put the two red x

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marks on my tush

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and

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that

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changed my life

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and uh that led me to kathleen martin

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because i needed help i had to process

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it because i finally had to face what

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i've been denying my whole entire life

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i've been a lifelong experiencer but

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i've been denying it i've just been

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trying to hide it for myself so these

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two x's finally made me face it and i

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was scared

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uh yep that's the first x that appeared

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on my left cheek

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and

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uh

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it happened the second night i moved

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here to the inner banks

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and i was in the kitchen unpacking

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and i felt something bite my butt and it

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hurt so i yelled over to my boyfriend at

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the time

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uh patrick i yelled over patrick will

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you please look at my butt because i

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think something did it yeah oh he's like

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yeah uh so i walk over to the couch and

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i went over and he says nothing and i

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started to get very afraid and at this

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point i had been having contact with the

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greys and i thought back then that the

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graves were bad i thought they were evil

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but now i don't think that anymore but

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back then i did

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so

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after what seemed like a lifetime of

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silence i asked them well is there

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something did something bite me

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and you said yeah and there's also a red

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x

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and he showed me a picture of this and i

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was just shocked and i knew right away

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that it was a grace

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and i said to him okay we're just going

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to ignore this we're going to pretend

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like this never happened because that's

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what i've been used to doing my whole

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entire life every time something weird

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happened there was something weird on my

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body just ignore it

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how did you handle that if you don't

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mind asking as far as you kind of just

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shutting this down because i'm looking

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at the marks as well as those in the

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chat and i think we can all conclude

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that that's i mean that's not a normal

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that's not a

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bug but right that's not something

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you're gonna just chalk up is

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you know rationally i suppose even

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trying to be rational about it does that

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look like a bed bug bite or something

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you know what i mean if you're trying to

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think of just anything it could be

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yeah i tried i tried to figure out what

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it could be and my boyfriend at the time

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was he's very logical and

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he he was

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stunned

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and i've had people look at it i've had

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people measure in between the circles

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and they're equidistant

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and they're red and they were flush

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against my skin so if i when i touched

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it with my fingers i couldn't feel it

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and then uh nine days later

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i came to in my bedroom

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and

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i had this download of a memory

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where i was uh

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lying on a bed that was that resembled a

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hospital bed

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and i was on my side

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and i couldn't move my arms and i

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couldn't move my legs i felt paralyzed

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and i felt something behind me so i

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could move my head and i turn around and

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and

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we looked into his others eyes

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we locked eyes and

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i described in the book it was like

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looking into two pools of black oil

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and there was no telepathic

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communication in the past every time i

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had contact with the grace there was

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telepathic communication this time there

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was nothing and that freaked me out even

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more uh for some reason as humans we

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don't like neutral behavior neutral

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behavior kind of freaks us out we either

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want you to be really nice or really

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mean but like just totally neutral it's

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kind of creepy

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yeah

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and so i was scared to death

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and i turned my head back around

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and then i was popped into my bedroom

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and i went downstairs i waited for um

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patrick to wake up and the weird thing

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is he always gets up before i do but for

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some reason i got up before he did and i

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was very very nervous

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because as i'm waiting for him i'm

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thinking

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if i have another x i'm i don't think i

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can handle it like this is too much for

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me i won't be able to deal with it

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so he came downstairs and i told him

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everything and i also told him there's

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one more thing

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that i've never experienced before and

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when i was lying on that bed in that

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room

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i knew i was on the moon

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really

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yeah just a sense of knowing

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yeah

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and i've never had that before

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yeah that's i mean

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and it's so interesting to me to mention

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that and you're not the only one i

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suppose that is those have mentioned uh

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before knowing about possibly some of

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the interactions with say the moon and

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things that have happened that way now i

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believe this was a rendition or excuse

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me a artist rendition of

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what you've seen the yeah

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that was the grey that was standing

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right behind me

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i got you

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yeah and he was about four feet tall and

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his skin was like a cross between gray

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and

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human pink skin

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and um

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so after i told my ex what happened and

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where i was

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i asked him to uh

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look at my butt again

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and he did and there was silence and i

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knew

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and i said well is there another x and

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he said yes there's another x

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just like the first one but this time

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it's on the right cheek and they were

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directly across from each other and i

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have a picture of it in my book

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and uh it's really hard to describe what

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it feels like when

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everything you know was just shattered

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it was like a rug of reality was just

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pulled out yanked out from underneath me

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and i was scared and i was angry because

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like i said i didn't like the grace back

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then and i thought they were toying with

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me

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and i was confused i was like what am i

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doing in the middle of the night hanging

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out with aliens and why are they putting

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marks on my body and who am i and who

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are we and what's happening

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and

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uh it was like an existential crisis

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yeah

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and so

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um he my ex asked me well what can i do

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for you how can i help you and there was

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nothing i had no answer

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um

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i just calmed myself down and i told

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them i need help i don't know where the

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help is going to come from but for the

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first time in my life i i have to admit

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that i need help and i just let it

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organically happen and that's how i

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found

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kathleen martin it was a big help for me

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do you think in some ways because and

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correct me if i'm wrong we

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that you know of yet you've never

507
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figured out the exact reason for the

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uh i have my personal theories why

509
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okay

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well i was just curious because the

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reason i'm kind of asking is because you

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you had had these interactions you you

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knew about them from age 10 right

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leading up to this

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but do you think it was just enough in

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your face where it was like all right

517
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you can't ignore this anymore you can't

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pretend and brush it off as a memory

519
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right i mean i'm just curious that is i

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guess the

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consensus in my own head just from

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listening to you in the past and you

523
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tell your story and i've always wanted

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to ask you that and because

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i guess in your own words how do you

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feel or why do you feel that that took

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place so so uh in your face as it were

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with such a large marking like that yeah

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well i needed something drastic because

530
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they had been giving me signs my whole

531
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entire life and i just kept ignoring it

532
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uh there would be marks on my body uh a

533
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scoop mark i remember one time looking

534
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down and there was a group of skin

535
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missing and there was no bloat

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and you know how paper cut hurts like i

537
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didn't even feel that there was no scab

538
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or anything so i'd look at that and i

539
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would just make an excuse for it um

540
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there'd be like triangular shaped things

541
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on my body and i would just laugh it off

542
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and say oh bug bit me in a triangle

543
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uh one time there was a

544
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literally a rectangle sliced out of my

545
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back you could you could see four

546
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straight gosh

547
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marks i have a picture of that in the

548
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book too i just kept ignoring everything

549
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uh and

550
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i do think that

551
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i have agreed in a higher sense from a

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higher perspective

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to

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00:19:48,470 --> 00:19:45,360
uh

555
00:19:50,870 --> 00:19:48,480
and just to wake some people up and i

556
00:19:53,510 --> 00:19:50,880
wasn't doing it so i needed something

557
00:19:55,270 --> 00:19:53,520
huge uh not everybody needs a huge

558
00:19:57,430 --> 00:19:55,280
wake-up call or like to be clobbered

559
00:19:59,430 --> 00:19:57,440
over the head so like wake up

560
00:20:01,350 --> 00:19:59,440
and to express their authentic selves

561
00:20:03,029 --> 00:20:01,360
but i did

562
00:20:04,230 --> 00:20:03,039
do let's let's do this a little bit

563
00:20:05,669 --> 00:20:04,240
because i love what you just said there

564
00:20:08,630 --> 00:20:05,679
about the fact that you're you're

565
00:20:10,789 --> 00:20:08,640
helping you know wake others up and

566
00:20:12,470 --> 00:20:10,799
um i know sometimes that term some

567
00:20:13,990 --> 00:20:12,480
people associate that with a kind of a

568
00:20:15,350 --> 00:20:14,000
derogatory term anymore i don't really

569
00:20:17,270 --> 00:20:15,360
think it is because i think you're

570
00:20:20,230 --> 00:20:17,280
helping wake you literally are helping

571
00:20:21,909 --> 00:20:20,240
those wake up to themselves right and

572
00:20:23,590 --> 00:20:21,919
let's go back to you

573
00:20:24,870 --> 00:20:23,600
uh your first experience because this is

574
00:20:26,390 --> 00:20:24,880
something that i believe a lot of

575
00:20:28,630 --> 00:20:26,400
experiences even if it's not clear for

576
00:20:29,990 --> 00:20:28,640
them sometimes it is very oddly clear

577
00:20:31,669 --> 00:20:30,000
that first experience more than maybe

578
00:20:33,270 --> 00:20:31,679
even the others that have followed

579
00:20:34,390 --> 00:20:33,280
what was your first experience as that

580
00:20:35,909 --> 00:20:34,400
10 year old girl

581
00:20:37,909 --> 00:20:35,919
and did you have an experience prior to

582
00:20:40,470 --> 00:20:37,919
that or is it just that's when you knew

583
00:20:43,190 --> 00:20:40,480
that an experience had taken place

584
00:20:46,149 --> 00:20:43,200
my first conscious memory

585
00:20:49,110 --> 00:20:46,159
was when i was 10 and i was

586
00:20:50,710 --> 00:20:49,120
regularly visited by this being

587
00:20:53,430 --> 00:20:50,720
for a couple of years

588
00:20:56,549 --> 00:20:53,440
uh so many times that i lost count and

589
00:20:59,350 --> 00:20:56,559
this being resembled a human male just

590
00:21:01,909 --> 00:20:59,360
slightly different and he would come in

591
00:21:03,669 --> 00:21:01,919
this big spaceship and each time he came

592
00:21:06,149 --> 00:21:03,679
from a different direction

593
00:21:08,070 --> 00:21:06,159
and he would hover over me i could see

594
00:21:09,669 --> 00:21:08,080
underneath and it was so big like i

595
00:21:12,870 --> 00:21:09,679
couldn't see the sky

596
00:21:14,830 --> 00:21:12,880
and i was so happy i was really excited

597
00:21:18,230 --> 00:21:14,840
because i felt like i was seeing a

598
00:21:20,470 --> 00:21:18,240
brother uh and he would come down and

599
00:21:22,390 --> 00:21:20,480
we'd talk and he'd just check up on me

600
00:21:23,830 --> 00:21:22,400
and make sure i was okay

601
00:21:35,669 --> 00:21:23,840
and

602
00:21:37,190 --> 00:21:35,679
anything to anybody now i could have

603
00:21:38,470 --> 00:21:37,200
told my parents because my parents were

604
00:21:41,669 --> 00:21:38,480
very open

605
00:21:44,870 --> 00:21:41,679
um but i didn't and i don't know why

606
00:21:47,590 --> 00:21:44,880
so see how that happens isn't it

607
00:21:49,990 --> 00:21:47,600
so this one for a couple of years okay

608
00:21:51,909 --> 00:21:50,000
and i remember the last one the last

609
00:21:53,909 --> 00:21:51,919
time i saw him this was very different

610
00:21:55,990 --> 00:21:53,919
because this time for the first time i

611
00:21:57,750 --> 00:21:56,000
was with other children

612
00:22:00,149 --> 00:21:57,760
and i didn't see their faces because we

613
00:22:02,390 --> 00:22:00,159
were lined up like this but i was just

614
00:22:04,390 --> 00:22:02,400
in my peripheral vision i could see kids

615
00:22:06,789 --> 00:22:04,400
that were about my height

616
00:22:08,470 --> 00:22:06,799
and we were just watching this spaceship

617
00:22:12,470 --> 00:22:08,480
just go off

618
00:22:14,310 --> 00:22:12,480
and we were very sad and i knew i'm not

619
00:22:15,669 --> 00:22:14,320
going to see him anymore and this is

620
00:22:17,909 --> 00:22:15,679
very sad

621
00:22:20,070 --> 00:22:17,919
i have to do my work

622
00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:20,080
and then i find myself in my bedroom and

623
00:22:23,830 --> 00:22:21,600
i have to get ready for elementary

624
00:22:25,750 --> 00:22:23,840
school and at that time i didn't know

625
00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:25,760
what my work meant i didn't know what

626
00:22:29,430 --> 00:22:27,360
any of that meant

627
00:22:31,590 --> 00:22:29,440
it was just a message that came to me

628
00:22:34,230 --> 00:22:31,600
and i just chose to forget it for a long

629
00:22:36,149 --> 00:22:34,240
time now it's starting to make sense and

630
00:22:37,990 --> 00:22:36,159
i'm also hoping that i'm starting to

631
00:22:40,149 --> 00:22:38,000
meet those other kids that were lined up

632
00:22:41,350 --> 00:22:40,159
with me too

633
00:22:43,830 --> 00:22:41,360
you know that's something i was going to

634
00:22:45,590 --> 00:22:43,840
ask you about because

635
00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:45,600
yeah two things that i noticed right off

636
00:22:49,190 --> 00:22:47,200
the bat that seemed to happen to a lot

637
00:22:51,270 --> 00:22:49,200
of experiencers which is they never tell

638
00:22:53,590 --> 00:22:51,280
their story right well let me rephrase

639
00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:53,600
that they don't sometimes disclose to

640
00:22:56,230 --> 00:22:54,720
the closest people in their life that

641
00:22:57,510 --> 00:22:56,240
they would disclose anything else to you

642
00:22:58,870 --> 00:22:57,520
like you said you had it wasn't that

643
00:23:00,070 --> 00:22:58,880
your parents were hard on you then they

644
00:23:01,430 --> 00:23:00,080
were open

645
00:23:02,789 --> 00:23:01,440
they're just something seems to almost

646
00:23:05,190 --> 00:23:02,799
block this

647
00:23:06,830 --> 00:23:05,200
and in the second part being the

648
00:23:09,350 --> 00:23:06,840
interaction with

649
00:23:11,350 --> 00:23:09,360
um knowing other people were there not

650
00:23:12,950 --> 00:23:11,360
not necessarily other entities or other

651
00:23:14,789 --> 00:23:12,960
you know other off-world aliens or

652
00:23:15,830 --> 00:23:14,799
anything like that but that they were

653
00:23:17,190 --> 00:23:15,840
literal

654
00:23:19,110 --> 00:23:17,200
it sounds and from hopefully i'm not

655
00:23:21,110 --> 00:23:19,120
overstepping my balance here but other

656
00:23:23,669 --> 00:23:21,120
children from earth is what you were it

657
00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:23,679
felt like you were experiencing right

658
00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:24,960
that's um

659
00:23:29,669 --> 00:23:27,600
man i i always find that story so i mean

660
00:23:31,430 --> 00:23:29,679
in regards to any person who had an

661
00:23:33,110 --> 00:23:31,440
experience as a young child

662
00:23:35,110 --> 00:23:33,120
the commonality of knowing other

663
00:23:37,110 --> 00:23:35,120
children is there that's something that

664
00:23:39,190 --> 00:23:37,120
has always resonated with i've always

665
00:23:40,950 --> 00:23:39,200
been drawn to that thing alone i don't

666
00:23:42,149 --> 00:23:40,960
know why necessarily but that's

667
00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:42,159
something i do think it sticks out

668
00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:44,640
because the idea that like you said

669
00:23:47,909 --> 00:23:46,480
have you felt in any way shape or form

670
00:23:49,909 --> 00:23:47,919
that you needed to find any of these

671
00:23:52,070 --> 00:23:49,919
other people or that you might have

672
00:23:55,510 --> 00:23:52,080
maybe experienced this with

673
00:23:58,789 --> 00:23:55,520
i'm open to connecting with them i'm not

674
00:24:01,269 --> 00:23:58,799
sure if i have sometimes it feels like

675
00:24:04,230 --> 00:24:01,279
i've met someone that i

676
00:24:05,350 --> 00:24:04,240
i can't describe the closeness that i

677
00:24:08,789 --> 00:24:05,360
feel

678
00:24:10,789 --> 00:24:08,799
um but i'm not certain

679
00:24:12,950 --> 00:24:10,799
i understand that that i mean i was

680
00:24:13,990 --> 00:24:12,960
gonna say it's uh

681
00:24:15,190 --> 00:24:14,000
that's something that's always puzzled

682
00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:15,200
me too and that's a whole other rabbit

683
00:24:17,590 --> 00:24:16,480
hole right when you meet somebody that's

684
00:24:19,350 --> 00:24:17,600
like you just

685
00:24:21,029 --> 00:24:19,360
you've never met them but it's like you

686
00:24:21,830 --> 00:24:21,039
you know who this person is and it's a

687
00:24:22,950 --> 00:24:21,840
very

688
00:24:24,310 --> 00:24:22,960
i think people know if you've

689
00:24:25,590 --> 00:24:24,320
experienced that you know what it is

690
00:24:27,350 --> 00:24:25,600
like it's a it's a piece of you

691
00:24:30,310 --> 00:24:27,360
recognized as a piece of them right it's

692
00:24:32,549 --> 00:24:30,320
just something innately in you um but

693
00:24:34,630 --> 00:24:32,559
moving on here a little bit so you're

694
00:24:35,590 --> 00:24:34,640
through middle school things kind of

695
00:24:37,350 --> 00:24:35,600
kicked off

696
00:24:38,789 --> 00:24:37,360
they basically ended there did you did

697
00:24:39,990 --> 00:24:38,799
you continue to have any sort of

698
00:24:41,909 --> 00:24:40,000
interactions or did you just kind of

699
00:24:45,590 --> 00:24:41,919
stop

700
00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:45,600
uh as far as the et stuff goes i don't

701
00:24:51,990 --> 00:24:48,960
have a lot of conscious memories until

702
00:24:53,110 --> 00:24:52,000
uh later but i will tell you during that

703
00:24:55,269 --> 00:24:53,120
time

704
00:24:57,590 --> 00:24:55,279
my parents taught my sister and i had to

705
00:25:01,990 --> 00:24:57,600
meditate when i was in fifth grade

706
00:25:04,549 --> 00:25:02,000
so i was meditating uh yeah and

707
00:25:05,669 --> 00:25:04,559
our parents and my sister and i would

708
00:25:08,310 --> 00:25:05,679
talk about

709
00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:08,320
uh astral planes and

710
00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:09,760
uh

711
00:25:17,350 --> 00:25:13,440
past lives and we have a soul

712
00:25:18,630 --> 00:25:17,360
and so i was at a very young age

713
00:25:20,630 --> 00:25:18,640
um

714
00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:20,640
taught these things and they felt right

715
00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:22,320
and they felt good so i was having

716
00:25:27,110 --> 00:25:24,400
spiritual experiences at a very young

717
00:25:28,630 --> 00:25:27,120
age plus i was realizing that i knew

718
00:25:30,149 --> 00:25:28,640
things about people that i shouldn't

719
00:25:33,029 --> 00:25:30,159
know

720
00:25:34,390 --> 00:25:33,039
and i quickly realized to keep that

721
00:25:35,190 --> 00:25:34,400
quiet

722
00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:35,200
and

723
00:25:42,870 --> 00:25:38,960
uh yeah um it was just this ability to

724
00:25:45,510 --> 00:25:42,880
just pick up on the energy of people and

725
00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:45,520
uh just kind of read them

726
00:25:51,909 --> 00:25:48,480
um and so i've been doing that my whole

727
00:25:54,310 --> 00:25:51,919
life i think that's a combination of the

728
00:25:56,070 --> 00:25:54,320
et experience because the et experience

729
00:25:57,510 --> 00:25:56,080
does strengthen your paranormal

730
00:26:00,470 --> 00:25:57,520
abilities

731
00:26:02,070 --> 00:26:00,480
and also when i came to america as a

732
00:26:03,909 --> 00:26:02,080
little girl i didn't know english i

733
00:26:05,909 --> 00:26:03,919
didn't learn english until i went to

734
00:26:07,590 --> 00:26:05,919
first grade i went to first grade not

735
00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:07,600
even knowing english and i learned it

736
00:26:11,830 --> 00:26:10,000
there and i think because i couldn't

737
00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:11,840
understand what people were saying i

738
00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:15,440
probably plugged into non-verbal uh

739
00:26:20,149 --> 00:26:17,360
communication with people without even

740
00:26:22,070 --> 00:26:20,159
realizing what i was doing

741
00:26:24,310 --> 00:26:22,080
that could make sense i mean because

742
00:26:26,070 --> 00:26:24,320
like you said you you didn't maybe have

743
00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:26,080
the the chance to just walk up we so

744
00:26:29,110 --> 00:26:27,679
often because if we if we're just

745
00:26:31,350 --> 00:26:29,120
communicating with somebody we just so

746
00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:31,360
often forget all the other things like

747
00:26:34,630 --> 00:26:33,360
uh people's little inflections of their

748
00:26:36,870 --> 00:26:34,640
face and how they move and all the other

749
00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:36,880
ways we communicate right so i could see

750
00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:38,400
how one could be forced to definitely

751
00:26:41,830 --> 00:26:40,400
tap into something especially children

752
00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:41,840
seem to have those innate abilities that

753
00:26:45,029 --> 00:26:43,440
we just seem to i don't know suppress or

754
00:26:47,430 --> 00:26:45,039
forget over time

755
00:26:49,350 --> 00:26:47,440
um so so you were noticing some things

756
00:26:51,350 --> 00:26:49,360
you were noticing you perhaps had a

757
00:26:52,470 --> 00:26:51,360
heightened ability to just know things

758
00:26:54,230 --> 00:26:52,480
about people

759
00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:54,240
um i think at one point i heard you

760
00:26:56,710 --> 00:26:55,600
reference too that you started realizing

761
00:26:58,310 --> 00:26:56,720
you had a

762
00:26:59,430 --> 00:26:58,320
an ability or what do they call it now

763
00:27:00,950 --> 00:26:59,440
there's a different term for it's like

764
00:27:03,029 --> 00:27:00,960
channeling but there was another chapter

765
00:27:05,669 --> 00:27:03,039
back then what was that called

766
00:27:08,149 --> 00:27:05,679
uh we called it automatic writing back

767
00:27:10,549 --> 00:27:08,159
then thank you and i discovered i could

768
00:27:13,430 --> 00:27:10,559
do that around 1516

769
00:27:16,149 --> 00:27:13,440
and i did that for a long time

770
00:27:18,149 --> 00:27:16,159
and uh beautiful things would come out

771
00:27:20,230 --> 00:27:18,159
and they were not for me

772
00:27:22,549 --> 00:27:20,240
uh just this beautiful messages i would

773
00:27:26,710 --> 00:27:22,559
just write and write and write

774
00:27:28,549 --> 00:27:26,720
and uh dead people started showing up

775
00:27:30,630 --> 00:27:28,559
and they would have messages for the

776
00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:30,640
people who were left behind and they

777
00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:32,320
were coming to me in my dreams and they

778
00:27:36,070 --> 00:27:34,480
were coming to me in my wake state

779
00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:36,080
and uh

780
00:27:40,230 --> 00:27:38,159
i didn't know how to control it i didn't

781
00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:40,240
know how to deal with it i know now that

782
00:27:44,149 --> 00:27:42,640
i am in control but back then i didn't

783
00:27:45,990 --> 00:27:44,159
know that i thought

784
00:27:48,549 --> 00:27:46,000
they were in control meaning the dead

785
00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:48,559
people or the et's or the other worldly

786
00:27:53,190 --> 00:27:50,240
beings i thought they were in control

787
00:27:55,430 --> 00:27:53,200
but they're not i'm controlled so

788
00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:55,440
back then i thought i just turned the

789
00:28:00,630 --> 00:27:58,000
faucet on full and just let them all

790
00:28:03,269 --> 00:28:00,640
come and it's exhausting and i can't go

791
00:28:06,149 --> 00:28:03,279
to sleep or i completely turn it off i

792
00:28:08,630 --> 00:28:06,159
didn't know that i could control it

793
00:28:10,389 --> 00:28:08,640
so that i was comfortable with it now i

794
00:28:11,669 --> 00:28:10,399
know that

795
00:28:13,110 --> 00:28:11,679
that makes a difference like you said

796
00:28:14,630 --> 00:28:13,120
that's such a and this is why it's such

797
00:28:16,470 --> 00:28:14,640
a great thing that i love what you're

798
00:28:17,669 --> 00:28:16,480
doing and many others are doing and have

799
00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:17,679
been struggling to i shouldn't say

800
00:28:21,909 --> 00:28:19,039
struggling and striving to do over the

801
00:28:24,149 --> 00:28:21,919
years which is bring a light to

802
00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:24,159
the experiences in the ufo phenomenon as

803
00:28:27,750 --> 00:28:25,840
a whole but especially those that are

804
00:28:28,710 --> 00:28:27,760
experiencing things like this um really

805
00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:28,720
quickly and i know we're still telling

806
00:28:30,950 --> 00:28:29,760
your story here a little bit but ghost

807
00:28:32,389 --> 00:28:30,960
dragons just has a question i don't want

808
00:28:35,590 --> 00:28:32,399
to miss it because it slips back in the

809
00:28:37,750 --> 00:28:35,600
chat there oh yes do you astroproject

810
00:28:40,870 --> 00:28:37,760
yeah yes i have

811
00:28:45,510 --> 00:28:40,880
uh thank you ghost dragons

812
00:28:46,389 --> 00:28:45,520
w yeah zw yeah yeah all right

813
00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:46,399
uh

814
00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:53,039
one of the times i did um

815
00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:54,640
i was in the shower

816
00:28:57,909 --> 00:28:56,320
and i was just washing my hair and the

817
00:28:59,350 --> 00:28:57,919
next thing i know i'm in the corner of

818
00:29:01,830 --> 00:28:59,360
the bathroom and i'm watching myself

819
00:29:04,070 --> 00:29:01,840
wash my hair and it was in such high

820
00:29:05,830 --> 00:29:04,080
definition and it was just for a few

821
00:29:08,870 --> 00:29:05,840
seconds and then i popped back in my

822
00:29:11,990 --> 00:29:08,880
body i was like what the hell was that

823
00:29:13,909 --> 00:29:12,000
was weird

824
00:29:17,430 --> 00:29:13,919
i was in meditation

825
00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:20,070
this tunnel my eyes are closed in my and

826
00:29:25,669 --> 00:29:22,720
i'm looking for images and things on my

827
00:29:28,789 --> 00:29:25,679
third eye and this tunnel this light

828
00:29:30,630 --> 00:29:28,799
beam comes and then a lady appears and

829
00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:30,640
the lady says to me would you like to

830
00:29:33,510 --> 00:29:31,840
come with me

831
00:29:36,149 --> 00:29:33,520
and i said okay

832
00:29:38,710 --> 00:29:36,159
so we step into this tunnel and it's an

833
00:29:41,909 --> 00:29:38,720
uh energy beam or a light beam and the

834
00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:41,919
mu we go through it and then i end up at

835
00:29:47,830 --> 00:29:44,640
the top of a hospital room up at the

836
00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:47,840
ceiling and she gets into the bed and

837
00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:50,799
then i see my good friend at the time

838
00:29:53,110 --> 00:29:52,080
and her

839
00:29:56,149 --> 00:29:53,120
family

840
00:29:57,750 --> 00:29:56,159
and i said to her oh you're uh i don't

841
00:30:00,310 --> 00:29:57,760
want to say my friend's name let's say

842
00:30:02,710 --> 00:30:00,320
sue oh you're his mother

843
00:30:04,149 --> 00:30:02,720
uh she said yes i am and i had never met

844
00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:04,159
her before ever

845
00:30:10,789 --> 00:30:08,480
uh and i said uh you just died and she

846
00:30:14,230 --> 00:30:10,799
said yes i did

847
00:30:16,789 --> 00:30:14,240
and then i came back on my couch my uh

848
00:30:19,830 --> 00:30:16,799
my eyes popped open and then about 10

849
00:30:22,549 --> 00:30:19,840
minutes later my girlfriend uh texted me

850
00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:22,559
that her mom had just passed away

851
00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:25,600
and i didn't tell her at that time what

852
00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:27,840
had happened i told her later and she

853
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:30,559
said that she found a lot of solace and

854
00:30:35,830 --> 00:30:33,360
peace in what i said because to her

855
00:30:37,510 --> 00:30:35,840
that meant that the mother her mother

856
00:30:38,950 --> 00:30:37,520
left her body

857
00:30:41,190 --> 00:30:38,960
um

858
00:30:43,110 --> 00:30:41,200
so that she didn't feel the pain because

859
00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:43,120
evidently there was some pain and it

860
00:30:46,710 --> 00:30:44,640
just made her feel good that her mom

861
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:46,720
could leave her body and not feel the

862
00:30:53,110 --> 00:30:51,360
pain of those final moments yeah

863
00:30:54,149 --> 00:30:53,120
no it's there's some

864
00:30:56,149 --> 00:30:54,159
i mean

865
00:30:58,310 --> 00:30:56,159
thank you for the question yeah thank

866
00:30:59,590 --> 00:30:58,320
you ghoshwagan zw uh and you guys like i

867
00:31:01,110 --> 00:30:59,600
said if you have any questions please

868
00:31:02,310 --> 00:31:01,120
you know get a chance pop them in i know

869
00:31:03,509 --> 00:31:02,320
we're kind of going through stuff story

870
00:31:05,509 --> 00:31:03,519
here a little bit but feel free to pop

871
00:31:06,950 --> 00:31:05,519
them in um i'll do my best to get them

872
00:31:08,549 --> 00:31:06,960
to her as we go

873
00:31:10,870 --> 00:31:08,559
um

874
00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:10,880
you know one of the things that did you

875
00:31:17,590 --> 00:31:15,360
find it more beneficial or um

876
00:31:18,870 --> 00:31:17,600
more of a hindrance during that time

877
00:31:20,630 --> 00:31:18,880
where you were uncertain where you're

878
00:31:21,830 --> 00:31:20,640
just denying because do you think in the

879
00:31:22,950 --> 00:31:21,840
back you had you always knew what was

880
00:31:25,350 --> 00:31:22,960
going on but you're just telling

881
00:31:27,590 --> 00:31:25,360
yourself another narrative that yes the

882
00:31:29,590 --> 00:31:27,600
et's don't exist this is just i mean did

883
00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:29,600
you question if i may ask your sanity at

884
00:31:34,230 --> 00:31:32,880
any point oh absolutely yes without a

885
00:31:35,830 --> 00:31:34,240
doubt

886
00:31:37,190 --> 00:31:35,840
especially when i started talking to

887
00:31:39,590 --> 00:31:37,200
dead people

888
00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:39,600
and uh so the first time that i was

889
00:31:44,710 --> 00:31:42,240
really aware of that was uh

890
00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:44,720
um a couple of decades ago and i was

891
00:31:48,310 --> 00:31:46,480
just sitting out on the back porch just

892
00:31:49,990 --> 00:31:48,320
getting some sun and i had my eyes

893
00:31:52,149 --> 00:31:50,000
closed and all of a sudden there was

894
00:31:55,190 --> 00:31:52,159
just this man's face in my third eye

895
00:31:56,950 --> 00:31:55,200
like just his head like right in my face

896
00:31:59,430 --> 00:31:56,960
and he told me his name

897
00:32:01,350 --> 00:31:59,440
and i just popped up and i opened my

898
00:32:04,389 --> 00:32:01,360
eyes and i heard this voice

899
00:32:06,789 --> 00:32:04,399
say to me go look in the obituaries

900
00:32:09,509 --> 00:32:06,799
so i get up and i look in the obituaries

901
00:32:12,389 --> 00:32:09,519
and i'm thinking okay this is crazy and

902
00:32:15,190 --> 00:32:12,399
there was his name there he was and he

903
00:32:17,750 --> 00:32:15,200
had just passed away and

904
00:32:19,509 --> 00:32:17,760
then it just started coming more and

905
00:32:23,190 --> 00:32:19,519
more and more

906
00:32:26,020 --> 00:32:23,200
and i used to do uh readings

907
00:32:27,590 --> 00:32:26,030
for people for uh

908
00:32:29,350 --> 00:32:27,600
[Music]

909
00:32:32,710 --> 00:32:29,360
for their friends and family that have

910
00:32:34,950 --> 00:32:32,720
uh passed away but i don't do specific

911
00:32:38,070 --> 00:32:34,960
readings for that anymore in a session

912
00:32:40,389 --> 00:32:38,080
if a deceased a loved one pops up i'll

913
00:32:43,190 --> 00:32:40,399
mention it but i don't specifically do

914
00:32:46,470 --> 00:32:43,200
uh those kind of readings anymore

915
00:32:48,070 --> 00:32:46,480
because you can't always get the person

916
00:32:49,990 --> 00:32:48,080
uh you can get someone else but you

917
00:32:51,909 --> 00:32:50,000
can't always necessarily get the

918
00:32:54,070 --> 00:32:51,919
grandmother i'm here for my grandmother

919
00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:54,080
and maybe you can't reach her

920
00:32:57,909 --> 00:32:56,480
and that's the part of it that i really

921
00:32:59,509 --> 00:32:57,919
don't like because someone's coming to

922
00:33:01,029 --> 00:32:59,519
you and i'm like well i can't get you

923
00:33:03,029 --> 00:33:01,039
get my grandmother or maybe i can get

924
00:33:04,710 --> 00:33:03,039
your grandfather or something like that

925
00:33:07,190 --> 00:33:04,720
i think a lot of times people come

926
00:33:08,830 --> 00:33:07,200
through that are very significant they

927
00:33:11,190 --> 00:33:08,840
have very important

928
00:33:14,310 --> 00:33:11,200
messages uh

929
00:33:15,830 --> 00:33:14,320
i imagine too um by the way josh uh

930
00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:15,840
tribute times podcast josh i know you

931
00:33:19,350 --> 00:33:18,000
know him very well says uh hi uh

932
00:33:20,070 --> 00:33:19,360
obviously you guys have hung out quite a

933
00:33:22,230 --> 00:33:20,080
bit

934
00:33:25,190 --> 00:33:22,240
um

935
00:33:27,029 --> 00:33:25,200
i imagine if you were on the other side

936
00:33:28,710 --> 00:33:27,039
i've often thought about like what if i

937
00:33:30,389 --> 00:33:28,720
did you know i've got three little ones

938
00:33:32,549 --> 00:33:30,399
and a wife and i've often wondered what

939
00:33:33,909 --> 00:33:32,559
if something just unexpectedly happened

940
00:33:35,110 --> 00:33:33,919
right and that's why we should always

941
00:33:36,549 --> 00:33:35,120
live our life as if it you know it's the

942
00:33:37,830 --> 00:33:36,559
last day kind of planned for the next

943
00:33:39,509 --> 00:33:37,840
hundred years but

944
00:33:40,549 --> 00:33:39,519
sometimes what if you just ended up

945
00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:40,559
going and there's something you wanted

946
00:33:44,230 --> 00:33:41,760
to say

947
00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:44,240
how um

948
00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:47,200
earnestly you would seek out any sort of

949
00:33:50,710 --> 00:33:49,120
way to find someone who can hear you you

950
00:33:53,110 --> 00:33:50,720
know no matter who it is you wouldn't

951
00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:53,120
care if this person's there searching

952
00:33:57,509 --> 00:33:55,760
for so-and-so who might no longer be

953
00:34:00,070 --> 00:33:57,519
have a message to give but if that

954
00:34:01,509 --> 00:34:00,080
person has a message i feel to deliver

955
00:34:03,190 --> 00:34:01,519
yeah i mean you can't you're just kind

956
00:34:04,230 --> 00:34:03,200
of uh i mean i could be wrong it's not

957
00:34:06,230 --> 00:34:04,240
something i do but i would i would

958
00:34:08,069 --> 00:34:06,240
almost picture you as a lightning rod

959
00:34:10,550 --> 00:34:08,079
that's just seeking that energy that

960
00:34:11,990 --> 00:34:10,560
might be looking to share something so i

961
00:34:13,349 --> 00:34:12,000
imagine that could be very frustrating

962
00:34:16,149 --> 00:34:13,359
for you too

963
00:34:17,270 --> 00:34:16,159
yeah and one of uh was one of my clients

964
00:34:18,950 --> 00:34:17,280
uh

965
00:34:21,349 --> 00:34:18,960
right in the middle of our session all

966
00:34:23,669 --> 00:34:21,359
of a sudden this uh this i could see it

967
00:34:26,149 --> 00:34:23,679
she couldn't see it but this the shadow

968
00:34:28,389 --> 00:34:26,159
appeared in this film tall

969
00:34:30,710 --> 00:34:28,399
uh man with a hat

970
00:34:32,230 --> 00:34:30,720
and said to her there's a tall man with

971
00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:32,240
a hat in here

972
00:34:36,710 --> 00:34:34,960
she goes i don't know and i'm describing

973
00:34:38,710 --> 00:34:36,720
them and she's like i don't know

974
00:34:40,149 --> 00:34:38,720
and i said mimi

975
00:34:41,669 --> 00:34:40,159
who's mimi

976
00:34:44,869 --> 00:34:41,679
and she goes

977
00:34:46,950 --> 00:34:44,879
mimi oh my gosh that's mimi's father he

978
00:34:49,510 --> 00:34:46,960
passed away and he was tall and he wore

979
00:34:52,550 --> 00:34:49,520
a hat and i said well the message is

980
00:34:55,109 --> 00:34:52,560
mimi get in touch with mimi again so she

981
00:34:57,190 --> 00:34:55,119
got in touch with mimi right book and

982
00:34:58,630 --> 00:34:57,200
mimi said i'm so happy to hear from you

983
00:35:01,190 --> 00:34:58,640
because i'm dying

984
00:35:02,710 --> 00:35:01,200
and so she was able to reunite with her

985
00:35:04,950 --> 00:35:02,720
childhood friend

986
00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:04,960
right before she died

987
00:35:07,829 --> 00:35:06,000
wow

988
00:35:09,750 --> 00:35:07,839
that's see like something like that i

989
00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:09,760
mean it's pretty pretty awesome right in

990
00:35:13,190 --> 00:35:11,119
some ways i'm sure the person passing

991
00:35:15,910 --> 00:35:13,200
either side transitioning to

992
00:35:17,430 --> 00:35:15,920
um has to be quite a bit space cow has a

993
00:35:19,109 --> 00:35:17,440
question they said does it take

994
00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:19,119
willpower for them to punch through

995
00:35:22,390 --> 00:35:20,160
easier

996
00:35:24,870 --> 00:35:22,400
i'm not sure if they're referring to

997
00:35:26,470 --> 00:35:24,880
when you're maybe

998
00:35:28,150 --> 00:35:26,480
some sort of a medium ship there at that

999
00:35:29,910 --> 00:35:28,160
point spacecraft you want to be a little

1000
00:35:31,109 --> 00:35:29,920
more specific specific on the question

1001
00:35:33,670 --> 00:35:31,119
i'll come right back to yours okay i

1002
00:35:35,030 --> 00:35:33,680
promise uh ghost dragon zw has another

1003
00:35:36,069 --> 00:35:35,040
question which says

1004
00:35:37,349 --> 00:35:36,079
it's more of a statement than a question

1005
00:35:39,430 --> 00:35:37,359
but i agree with this it said we'd love

1006
00:35:42,550 --> 00:35:39,440
to have a round table with lynn sarah

1007
00:35:43,750 --> 00:35:42,560
sev and gemma jade um that would be i do

1008
00:35:45,589 --> 00:35:43,760
think that'd be that would be a great

1009
00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:45,599
time for sure

1010
00:35:49,750 --> 00:35:47,040
um

1011
00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:49,760
yeah i you know so as this is going on

1012
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:51,040
you're kind of progressing your life and

1013
00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:52,320
sometimes this is an area i feel like

1014
00:35:55,270 --> 00:35:53,760
people kind of forget about and just it

1015
00:35:56,870 --> 00:35:55,280
never gets talked about

1016
00:35:58,310 --> 00:35:56,880
what was seth doing during this time

1017
00:36:00,150 --> 00:35:58,320
what were your pursuits what were you

1018
00:36:02,069 --> 00:36:00,160
doing in life besides dealing with all

1019
00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:02,079
this what was going on i mean did you go

1020
00:36:06,150 --> 00:36:03,760
out on a friday night did you pursue

1021
00:36:08,069 --> 00:36:06,160
sports what did you do

1022
00:36:10,870 --> 00:36:08,079
that's a really good question

1023
00:36:13,670 --> 00:36:10,880
uh so as i was trying to live my life

1024
00:36:15,190 --> 00:36:13,680
the best that i could as my inauthentic

1025
00:36:17,109 --> 00:36:15,200
self

1026
00:36:19,670 --> 00:36:17,119
and when you try to live in an

1027
00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:19,680
inauthentic way it's not successful you

1028
00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:21,119
know the the most success you're going

1029
00:36:24,630 --> 00:36:22,880
to have is when you're actually give

1030
00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:24,640
yourself the permission to be the real

1031
00:36:28,230 --> 00:36:25,440
you

1032
00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:28,240
and so i wasn't doing that so i got

1033
00:36:32,470 --> 00:36:30,720
divorced twice um

1034
00:36:34,630 --> 00:36:32,480
i started my own business a couple of

1035
00:36:36,550 --> 00:36:34,640
times successfully

1036
00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:36,560
and i just kept busy and i would do

1037
00:36:40,790 --> 00:36:38,480
automatic writing on the side and i

1038
00:36:42,950 --> 00:36:40,800
would write pages and pages and pages

1039
00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:42,960
these beautiful messages and then i

1040
00:36:46,870 --> 00:36:45,040
would tell myself i was insane and then

1041
00:36:48,310 --> 00:36:46,880
i would throw them all away

1042
00:36:49,430 --> 00:36:48,320
and i would say i'm not doing this

1043
00:36:51,430 --> 00:36:49,440
anymore

1044
00:36:53,349 --> 00:36:51,440
and then i would do it and pages and

1045
00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:53,359
pages and pages and then i would tell

1046
00:36:57,109 --> 00:36:55,440
myself i was insane and i would throw

1047
00:36:58,710 --> 00:36:57,119
them all away and i said i'm not going

1048
00:37:01,349 --> 00:36:58,720
to do this anymore and i was on that

1049
00:37:03,349 --> 00:37:01,359
roller coaster i was just trying to find

1050
00:37:05,750 --> 00:37:03,359
just i was just trying to make myself

1051
00:37:07,750 --> 00:37:05,760
happy now and i always thought it was an

1052
00:37:09,750 --> 00:37:07,760
external search i thought the happiness

1053
00:37:11,829 --> 00:37:09,760
was out here

1054
00:37:13,829 --> 00:37:11,839
didn't realize it's inside of me and i

1055
00:37:15,750 --> 00:37:13,839
had the happiness the whole time i

1056
00:37:19,190 --> 00:37:15,760
couldn't reach that happiness until i

1057
00:37:22,230 --> 00:37:19,200
decided to express the real me and the

1058
00:37:23,430 --> 00:37:22,240
real me includes et's it doesn't include

1059
00:37:25,349 --> 00:37:23,440
everyone's

1060
00:37:27,990 --> 00:37:25,359
path of authenticity does not include

1061
00:37:29,670 --> 00:37:28,000
ut's but mind does

1062
00:37:32,790 --> 00:37:29,680
i love that like you said it's such an

1063
00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:32,800
individual thing um it's not going to be

1064
00:37:36,310 --> 00:37:34,400
everybody's not going to have to need to

1065
00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:36,320
have aliens or maybe a paranormal

1066
00:37:39,990 --> 00:37:38,400
experience uh speaking of paranormal get

1067
00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:40,000
back to us a little bit here space cow

1068
00:37:43,910 --> 00:37:41,440
tried to redefine a little more they

1069
00:37:45,910 --> 00:37:43,920
said uh stronger intense sort of thing

1070
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:45,920
to come into this realm like they want

1071
00:37:50,230 --> 00:37:47,280
it badly so i think they're talking

1072
00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:50,240
about because the original question was

1073
00:37:53,670 --> 00:37:52,320
does it take uh willpower for them to

1074
00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:53,680
punch through so i assume that they're

1075
00:37:55,910 --> 00:37:54,880
asking is when someone is trying to

1076
00:37:57,829 --> 00:37:55,920
contact you from the other side and

1077
00:37:59,910 --> 00:37:57,839
space cow correct me from wrong does it

1078
00:38:02,829 --> 00:37:59,920
take a lot of willpower on their part or

1079
00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:02,839
are you actually reaching out to

1080
00:38:07,190 --> 00:38:06,000
them oh talking with the dead

1081
00:38:09,349 --> 00:38:07,200
yes

1082
00:38:10,950 --> 00:38:09,359
okay that's a really good question space

1083
00:38:13,349 --> 00:38:10,960
count i hope i'm worrying that okay for

1084
00:38:16,470 --> 00:38:13,359
you by the way if i'm not let me know

1085
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:16,480
okay um so

1086
00:38:21,349 --> 00:38:18,720
so we're all in communication with

1087
00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:21,359
beings in other dimensions we're all

1088
00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:24,640
doing that constantly 24 7. like as you

1089
00:38:29,670 --> 00:38:27,440
and i are talking of the bigger parts of

1090
00:38:32,550 --> 00:38:29,680
us the other parts of us that exist in

1091
00:38:35,190 --> 00:38:32,560
the other dimensions are having uh

1092
00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:35,200
experiences with other beings too in

1093
00:38:37,589 --> 00:38:36,240
those

1094
00:38:40,710 --> 00:38:37,599
dimensions

1095
00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:40,720
and so just like we have a frequency

1096
00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:43,040
other worldly beings have a frequency

1097
00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:45,599
and we tend to align with similar

1098
00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:47,280
frequency people

1099
00:38:51,510 --> 00:38:49,680
similar frequency situations and places

1100
00:38:54,069 --> 00:38:51,520
and also with other worldly beings and

1101
00:38:55,829 --> 00:38:54,079
that's why i talk a lot about

1102
00:38:58,630 --> 00:38:55,839
increase your vibe and how to increase

1103
00:39:00,390 --> 00:38:58,640
your vibe because it's really important

1104
00:39:02,310 --> 00:39:00,400
but going back to

1105
00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:02,320
communicating with a variety of other

1106
00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:03,760
worldly beings because they all have

1107
00:39:06,790 --> 00:39:05,440
different frequencies

1108
00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:06,800
uh

1109
00:39:09,750 --> 00:39:07,920
um

1110
00:39:11,670 --> 00:39:09,760
i can feel the difference when i'm

1111
00:39:13,829 --> 00:39:11,680
communicating with a higher frequency

1112
00:39:15,750 --> 00:39:13,839
being and with someone who just died

1113
00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:15,760
because someone who has just died their

1114
00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:18,640
frequency is a little lower than maybe

1115
00:39:23,750 --> 00:39:22,000
if i'm communicating with a spirit guide

1116
00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:23,760
and i'm not saying

1117
00:39:27,829 --> 00:39:25,440
and i feel like that's a temporary

1118
00:39:29,109 --> 00:39:27,839
situation

1119
00:39:31,589 --> 00:39:29,119
but

1120
00:39:33,589 --> 00:39:31,599
when i'm in a reading and i've connected

1121
00:39:35,430 --> 00:39:33,599
with someone's guide or i've connected

1122
00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:35,440
with a being that's of a very high

1123
00:39:41,109 --> 00:39:37,920
vibration and then all of a sudden

1124
00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:41,119
if a dead person comes in i feel like

1125
00:39:45,829 --> 00:39:43,920
like i go down frequency

1126
00:39:48,150 --> 00:39:45,839
and then the dead person leaves and then

1127
00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:48,160
i'm back to a spirit guide in the mood i

1128
00:39:53,510 --> 00:39:50,560
go up in frequency and it's a little

1129
00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:53,520
tiring and it can take a lot out of you

1130
00:39:57,190 --> 00:39:54,960
but um

1131
00:40:00,790 --> 00:39:57,200
as far as the willpower goes it takes

1132
00:40:04,309 --> 00:40:00,800
willpower on both ends on yours and that

1133
00:40:06,309 --> 00:40:04,319
other beings and uh

1134
00:40:08,069 --> 00:40:06,319
sometimes people make fun of people who

1135
00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:08,079
can talk to the dead because they they

1136
00:40:13,109 --> 00:40:11,200
can't always hear the the full name

1137
00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:13,119
they'll say oh it starts with the k is

1138
00:40:19,109 --> 00:40:15,760
it karen is it kathy and people think

1139
00:40:21,589 --> 00:40:19,119
that that's the person just not um just

1140
00:40:23,109 --> 00:40:21,599
not being honest or truthful

1141
00:40:25,270 --> 00:40:23,119
but because of the

1142
00:40:27,510 --> 00:40:25,280
change in frequencies

1143
00:40:28,550 --> 00:40:27,520
the messages and the sounds can get

1144
00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:28,560
muddled

1145
00:40:33,109 --> 00:40:30,720
when you have to go through so many

1146
00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:33,119
different frequencies from a higher

1147
00:40:37,270 --> 00:40:35,280
frequency we're a lower frequency

1148
00:40:39,030 --> 00:40:37,280
compared to a lot of these beams so i'm

1149
00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:39,040
not saying a dead person is a lower

1150
00:40:43,589 --> 00:40:41,920
frequency than mine it's just a it's a

1151
00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:43,599
lower frequency than a lot of other

1152
00:40:47,589 --> 00:40:45,920
beings that i communicate with

1153
00:40:49,589 --> 00:40:47,599
that makes sense uh spacecraft says

1154
00:40:52,470 --> 00:40:49,599
thank you by the way for your answer and

1155
00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:52,480
uh gospel of thomas 77th parallel has a

1156
00:40:56,550 --> 00:40:53,520
pretty interesting question here they

1157
00:40:59,109 --> 00:40:56,560
said does some believe that that all or

1158
00:41:01,990 --> 00:40:59,119
some et's are metaphysical as opposed to

1159
00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:02,000
physical slash material yeah that's a

1160
00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:04,720
very good question thank you gospel of

1161
00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:06,640
thomas

1162
00:41:13,030 --> 00:41:07,920
uh

1163
00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:13,040
tangible and physical

1164
00:41:16,630 --> 00:41:14,560
and uh

1165
00:41:18,630 --> 00:41:16,640
there's also a lot of et's that are not

1166
00:41:20,470 --> 00:41:18,640
they're light beings that also take

1167
00:41:21,510 --> 00:41:20,480
forms that we don't understand

1168
00:41:25,030 --> 00:41:21,520
and

1169
00:41:27,030 --> 00:41:25,040
frequencies

1170
00:41:29,270 --> 00:41:27,040
and uh

1171
00:41:31,109 --> 00:41:29,280
a lot of people are actually having at

1172
00:41:33,109 --> 00:41:31,119
contact this way through the multi

1173
00:41:35,589 --> 00:41:33,119
dimensions and they don't even know it

1174
00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:35,599
because it feels like a dream

1175
00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:37,839
but it's not a dream it's just that we

1176
00:41:42,390 --> 00:41:40,160
haven't been conditioned to label such

1177
00:41:44,390 --> 00:41:42,400
an experience as a true experience we've

1178
00:41:46,150 --> 00:41:44,400
been conditioned to label something

1179
00:41:48,630 --> 00:41:46,160
that's happening in a multi-dimensional

1180
00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:48,640
way which our brain can't come up with a

1181
00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:49,920
word for

1182
00:41:54,309 --> 00:41:52,720
um but except call it a dream and

1183
00:41:56,150 --> 00:41:54,319
they're not dreams

1184
00:41:59,270 --> 00:41:56,160
uh we could tell the difference between

1185
00:42:01,990 --> 00:41:59,280
a dream and a real experience just about

1186
00:42:04,390 --> 00:42:02,000
everyone has had some kind of experience

1187
00:42:06,870 --> 00:42:04,400
when they wake up they're like whoa that

1188
00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:06,880
was not a dream yeah

1189
00:42:11,030 --> 00:42:09,680
yeah i 100 agree with that um i know

1190
00:42:12,950 --> 00:42:11,040
that when i when i was speaking with

1191
00:42:14,710 --> 00:42:12,960
terry lovelace um

1192
00:42:16,069 --> 00:42:14,720
a while back

1193
00:42:20,230 --> 00:42:16,079
yeah it's

1194
00:42:21,589 --> 00:42:20,240
um my gosh it was his story uh i because

1195
00:42:23,190 --> 00:42:21,599
of how i usually have to consume books

1196
00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:23,200
is like audio format

1197
00:42:26,150 --> 00:42:25,200
uh and i was at work when i had his

1198
00:42:28,150 --> 00:42:26,160
playing

1199
00:42:29,829 --> 00:42:28,160
and when he went over the scene about

1200
00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:29,839
you know like the seeing the monkeys in

1201
00:42:32,710 --> 00:42:30,800
his room

1202
00:42:34,790 --> 00:42:32,720
i had to stop it and like pop because it

1203
00:42:36,390 --> 00:42:34,800
got to me that was just it was it was

1204
00:42:37,589 --> 00:42:36,400
weird hot fun they like clicked a little

1205
00:42:39,670 --> 00:42:37,599
bit you know what i mean hearing

1206
00:42:41,270 --> 00:42:39,680
somebody worded differently that it was

1207
00:42:43,109 --> 00:42:41,280
just what they wanted him to see not

1208
00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:43,119
necessarily like so your dream might be

1209
00:42:45,910 --> 00:42:44,880
perceived as like that dream right like

1210
00:42:47,670 --> 00:42:45,920
you're saying

1211
00:42:50,069 --> 00:42:47,680
it's just the way that we condition it

1212
00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:50,079
and then i think our subconscious does

1213
00:42:53,109 --> 00:42:51,680
so much to protect us

1214
00:42:54,630 --> 00:42:53,119
beyond even just the conditioning i

1215
00:42:56,790 --> 00:42:54,640
think is the humans that we've

1216
00:42:58,230 --> 00:42:56,800
conditioned ourselves down to but i do

1217
00:43:00,550 --> 00:42:58,240
think that our subconscious sometimes

1218
00:43:02,550 --> 00:43:00,560
just i don't know it just like catches

1219
00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:02,560
us and we don't realize it like it knows

1220
00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:04,480
it would either break you or fracture

1221
00:43:08,150 --> 00:43:06,560
you or something because it's like some

1222
00:43:10,230 --> 00:43:08,160
people have a deep memory of those

1223
00:43:11,910 --> 00:43:10,240
things that took place some of us only

1224
00:43:13,910 --> 00:43:11,920
get like fractal pieces and then some

1225
00:43:15,349 --> 00:43:13,920
have nothing until they have an

1226
00:43:18,790 --> 00:43:15,359
experience one day that just brings it

1227
00:43:20,230 --> 00:43:18,800
all back for them um which in your case

1228
00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:20,240
uh nicholas thank you for being here

1229
00:43:22,069 --> 00:43:21,359
tonight by the way and for all those

1230
00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:22,079
that are out there we've got a lot of

1231
00:43:24,470 --> 00:43:23,280
listeners on facebook tonight thank you

1232
00:43:27,190 --> 00:43:24,480
for all the love and the sharing out

1233
00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:27,200
there thank you um go eat some pizza go

1234
00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:30,640
go you do that you go eat your pizza

1235
00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:32,800
but he says hi um

1236
00:43:37,109 --> 00:43:34,960
so with your experiences you're having

1237
00:43:39,349 --> 00:43:37,119
kind of this you know up and down to the

1238
00:43:41,270 --> 00:43:39,359
relationships um

1239
00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:41,280
what was the shifting point i mean what

1240
00:43:43,829 --> 00:43:42,720
point did things kind of change this is

1241
00:43:45,670 --> 00:43:43,839
i imagine my mind i'm just seeing kind

1242
00:43:46,950 --> 00:43:45,680
of a roller coaster ride of you find

1243
00:43:48,230 --> 00:43:46,960
somebody new things are good again that

1244
00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:48,240
maybe things aren't great and they dip

1245
00:43:51,829 --> 00:43:50,160
down again and then we're coming back up

1246
00:43:53,589 --> 00:43:51,839
so what was the turning point for you

1247
00:43:56,069 --> 00:43:53,599
where this kind of started to

1248
00:43:58,069 --> 00:43:56,079
transition we started being too you know

1249
00:44:00,390 --> 00:43:58,079
living to your true self i guess as it

1250
00:44:03,030 --> 00:44:01,190
uh

1251
00:44:07,030 --> 00:44:03,040
that was about

1252
00:44:09,990 --> 00:44:07,040
15 years ago or so uh where i was doing

1253
00:44:11,990 --> 00:44:10,000
a lot of uh channeling

1254
00:44:13,270 --> 00:44:12,000
and i finally reached the point in my

1255
00:44:15,829 --> 00:44:13,280
life where

1256
00:44:18,150 --> 00:44:15,839
i was questioning my sanity so much that

1257
00:44:20,470 --> 00:44:18,160
it wasn't healthy

1258
00:44:22,950 --> 00:44:20,480
so i decided i need an answer either i'm

1259
00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:22,960
crazy and if i am i'm going to get help

1260
00:44:26,150 --> 00:44:25,200
or i'm not crazy and

1261
00:44:36,390 --> 00:44:26,160
i

1262
00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:36,400
put

1263
00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:38,079
i made that intent

1264
00:44:42,390 --> 00:44:40,240
within me known

1265
00:44:43,829 --> 00:44:42,400
i heard about this psychic in baltimore

1266
00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:43,839
this is when i was living in baltimore

1267
00:44:46,630 --> 00:44:44,880
maryland

1268
00:44:48,870 --> 00:44:46,640
i heard about this psychic from two

1269
00:44:51,190 --> 00:44:48,880
different people so i told myself oh

1270
00:44:53,589 --> 00:44:51,200
okay she's the one she's gonna tell me

1271
00:44:55,990 --> 00:44:53,599
and i'd never been to a psychic before

1272
00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:56,000
i was very skeptical

1273
00:45:01,910 --> 00:44:56,880
and

1274
00:45:04,150 --> 00:45:01,920
should be doing what i'm doing

1275
00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:04,160
you can read you can hear feel and see

1276
00:45:07,190 --> 00:45:05,440
really well

1277
00:45:08,470 --> 00:45:07,200
in fact i want you to tell me where i'm

1278
00:45:10,950 --> 00:45:08,480
moving to

1279
00:45:12,630 --> 00:45:10,960
and i said oh i mean you tell me where

1280
00:45:14,950 --> 00:45:12,640
i'm moving she goes no you didn't tell

1281
00:45:17,910 --> 00:45:14,960
me where i moved

1282
00:45:19,750 --> 00:45:17,920
oh okay so i closed my eyes and i saw it

1283
00:45:21,109 --> 00:45:19,760
and i described it she goes yeah that's

1284
00:45:24,150 --> 00:45:21,119
it

1285
00:45:27,430 --> 00:45:24,160
and so after that i was like oh my gosh

1286
00:45:28,950 --> 00:45:27,440
this is fantastic i feel so good now it

1287
00:45:31,510 --> 00:45:28,960
all makes sense

1288
00:45:33,670 --> 00:45:31,520
and then i don't know a week or two

1289
00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:33,680
later i'm like oh my gosh she's just as

1290
00:45:38,309 --> 00:45:36,000
crazy as i am so i went

1291
00:45:41,589 --> 00:45:38,319
back in the pattern again yeah and like

1292
00:45:42,550 --> 00:45:41,599
i didn't believe it all of a sudden

1293
00:45:44,150 --> 00:45:42,560
but

1294
00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:44,160
uh it did

1295
00:45:47,750 --> 00:45:46,800
it did something to me because i decided

1296
00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:47,760
well

1297
00:45:51,430 --> 00:45:49,680
i'm going to start doing these readings

1298
00:45:53,829 --> 00:45:51,440
so i called my girlfriend and i said

1299
00:45:57,030 --> 00:45:53,839
just send me a stranger i need to read a

1300
00:45:58,230 --> 00:45:57,040
stranger and she sent me two and i did

1301
00:46:01,190 --> 00:45:58,240
it and

1302
00:46:04,150 --> 00:46:01,200
that was about 12 years ago and so i do

1303
00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:04,160
uh sole purpose uh sessions with clients

1304
00:46:08,230 --> 00:46:05,440
around the world

1305
00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:08,240
and that's how

1306
00:46:12,150 --> 00:46:10,240
that was the beginning of my path of

1307
00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:12,160
authenticity

1308
00:46:16,950 --> 00:46:14,880
and then i got divorced

1309
00:46:18,470 --> 00:46:16,960
so these things happen

1310
00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:18,480
now during that time

1311
00:46:22,710 --> 00:46:19,920
authenticity

1312
00:46:26,950 --> 00:46:22,720
there could be huge changes

1313
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:26,960
i agree i do i listen i mean i've

1314
00:46:30,790 --> 00:46:29,280
i'm sure there are a great many deal of

1315
00:46:33,030 --> 00:46:30,800
very intelligent people who have written

1316
00:46:34,069 --> 00:46:33,040
in depth on this so guys if i'm about to

1317
00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:34,079
say something that's very common

1318
00:46:37,990 --> 00:46:36,400
knowledge i apologize but i

1319
00:46:39,030 --> 00:46:38,000
joe and i excuse me ben and i were just

1320
00:46:41,030 --> 00:46:39,040
talking about this early day we were

1321
00:46:42,710 --> 00:46:41,040
talking on the phone and we were talking

1322
00:46:44,470 --> 00:46:42,720
about how um

1323
00:46:46,309 --> 00:46:44,480
being genuine to ourselves and who we

1324
00:46:47,190 --> 00:46:46,319
are especially as the channel starts to

1325
00:46:49,109 --> 00:46:47,200
grow

1326
00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:49,119
uh you know it's it's very easy to be

1327
00:46:52,309 --> 00:46:50,720
who and what you are when when there's

1328
00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:52,319
like three people watching but as things

1329
00:46:56,550 --> 00:46:53,680
grow and more people come in it's

1330
00:46:58,550 --> 00:46:56,560
awesome but just maintaining who and

1331
00:46:59,670 --> 00:46:58,560
what they are and what we are

1332
00:47:01,030 --> 00:46:59,680
and

1333
00:47:02,790 --> 00:47:01,040
we were i was telling him i was like i

1334
00:47:04,790 --> 00:47:02,800
just feel like the the universal

1335
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:04,800
consciousness call it whatever you will

1336
00:47:08,710 --> 00:47:06,960
recognizes when you're being true to

1337
00:47:11,030 --> 00:47:08,720
yourself and i believe that other people

1338
00:47:13,270 --> 00:47:11,040
can feel and just know that when you're

1339
00:47:15,109 --> 00:47:13,280
a genuine person and

1340
00:47:17,430 --> 00:47:15,119
with us being so fake nowadays with the

1341
00:47:19,270 --> 00:47:17,440
social media platforms and stuff i feel

1342
00:47:20,230 --> 00:47:19,280
that it's such a

1343
00:47:22,150 --> 00:47:20,240
there's something about the human

1344
00:47:23,670 --> 00:47:22,160
condition one is drawn to people that

1345
00:47:26,309 --> 00:47:23,680
are genuine people

1346
00:47:27,670 --> 00:47:26,319
and who what better thing to be than to

1347
00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:27,680
be yourself and be loved for being

1348
00:47:30,630 --> 00:47:29,440
yourself i mean i feel like at the end

1349
00:47:32,470 --> 00:47:30,640
of the day who wants to be loved for

1350
00:47:34,710 --> 00:47:32,480
something that's not really that's is it

1351
00:47:35,990 --> 00:47:34,720
really who you are you know

1352
00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:36,000
so

1353
00:47:44,230 --> 00:47:41,829
i'm just gonna speak for americans

1354
00:47:45,030 --> 00:47:44,240
americans are really conditioned

1355
00:47:48,470 --> 00:47:45,040
uh

1356
00:47:52,150 --> 00:47:48,480
you

1357
00:47:54,309 --> 00:47:52,160
um but i'm here to say do it anyway

1358
00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:54,319
because there's a lot of rewards there

1359
00:47:56,870 --> 00:47:55,680
it could very well be that our

1360
00:47:58,390 --> 00:47:56,880
government

1361
00:48:00,309 --> 00:47:58,400
you know we can get into how much the

1362
00:48:03,030 --> 00:48:00,319
government just has a giant thumb over

1363
00:48:05,430 --> 00:48:03,040
our heads it's very true

1364
00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:05,440
what these et experiences because i also

1365
00:48:09,990 --> 00:48:07,920
help experiences around the world and if

1366
00:48:11,910 --> 00:48:10,000
anyone has had an experience please

1367
00:48:13,510 --> 00:48:11,920
contact me you can go to my website

1368
00:48:16,630 --> 00:48:13,520
planetseb.com

1369
00:48:18,829 --> 00:48:16,640
and go into tell me your et story tell

1370
00:48:21,990 --> 00:48:18,839
me your story uh it's

1371
00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:22,000
confidential and i'll email you back and

1372
00:48:26,470 --> 00:48:23,520
we'll discuss it and i'll help you as

1373
00:48:29,589 --> 00:48:26,480
much as i can and also on my website i

1374
00:48:31,750 --> 00:48:29,599
uh i share some of the uh et stories

1375
00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:31,760
anonymously and some of the pictures and

1376
00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:33,520
some of the drawings that experiences

1377
00:48:36,950 --> 00:48:36,079
from around the world have sent me

1378
00:48:39,190 --> 00:48:36,960
and

1379
00:48:42,549 --> 00:48:39,200
uh

1380
00:48:45,510 --> 00:48:42,559
thank you for that amazing super chat

1381
00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:45,520
even if it is the canadian dollar

1382
00:48:49,030 --> 00:48:46,559
yes

1383
00:48:50,549 --> 00:48:49,040
and uh i really like that uh all the

1384
00:48:52,390 --> 00:48:50,559
messages are coming up on the bottom

1385
00:48:53,990 --> 00:48:52,400
there that's really good yup yeah we

1386
00:48:55,030 --> 00:48:54,000
certainly like to try and share it that

1387
00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:55,040
way

1388
00:48:59,109 --> 00:48:56,640
yeah thank you

1389
00:49:00,710 --> 00:48:59,119
so now i forgot what i was saying

1390
00:49:02,069 --> 00:49:00,720
oh i did drop so you were talking about

1391
00:49:03,430 --> 00:49:02,079
your where people can find you which i

1392
00:49:05,030 --> 00:49:03,440
dropped your link and guys again if

1393
00:49:08,069 --> 00:49:05,040
you're listening back to this scroll

1394
00:49:09,670 --> 00:49:08,079
down the show notes had experiences

1395
00:49:11,270 --> 00:49:09,680
in around the world for those other

1396
00:49:13,190 --> 00:49:11,280
people's experiences

1397
00:49:14,870 --> 00:49:13,200
and how our government handles it versus

1398
00:49:19,030 --> 00:49:14,880
perhaps maybe other

1399
00:49:21,670 --> 00:49:19,040
people yes thank you yeah so i

1400
00:49:23,829 --> 00:49:21,680
i've had my lab experiences in the lab

1401
00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:23,839
or my lab where

1402
00:49:28,150 --> 00:49:26,240
with government men and et's at the same

1403
00:49:29,349 --> 00:49:28,160
time and i've also been with a

1404
00:49:31,670 --> 00:49:29,359
government

1405
00:49:33,109 --> 00:49:31,680
types of people and hybrid babies and

1406
00:49:35,109 --> 00:49:33,119
things like that and i had these are all

1407
00:49:36,790 --> 00:49:35,119
conscious memories and some of them

1408
00:49:37,829 --> 00:49:36,800
are neutral and some of them are not

1409
00:49:41,270 --> 00:49:37,839
nice

1410
00:49:44,470 --> 00:49:42,230
uh

1411
00:49:47,109 --> 00:49:44,480
so through my personal experiences i've

1412
00:49:49,510 --> 00:49:47,119
discovered this

1413
00:49:54,069 --> 00:49:49,520
the government knows who's

1414
00:49:55,990 --> 00:49:54,079
made contact and

1415
00:49:57,349 --> 00:49:56,000
experiences are given a lot of

1416
00:49:58,870 --> 00:49:57,359
information

1417
00:50:00,950 --> 00:49:58,880
and the government wants to know this

1418
00:50:02,790 --> 00:50:00,960
information and the information that

1419
00:50:03,910 --> 00:50:02,800
we're given and i've been given all of

1420
00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:03,920
this too

1421
00:50:10,829 --> 00:50:05,280
uh

1422
00:50:13,990 --> 00:50:10,839
information about the

1423
00:50:17,750 --> 00:50:14,000
future information spiritual information

1424
00:50:20,390 --> 00:50:17,760
which is very empowering and uh

1425
00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:20,400
a lot of information about oneness but

1426
00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:22,800
at the same time our autonomy we're

1427
00:50:27,109 --> 00:50:25,200
still individuals but we're still one

1428
00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:27,119
and this is very they give very

1429
00:50:32,549 --> 00:50:29,680
empowering messages that the government

1430
00:50:34,870 --> 00:50:32,559
really does not want us to have because

1431
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:34,880
pretty much what they're telling

1432
00:50:41,109 --> 00:50:36,960
what they're sharing with us is making

1433
00:50:42,790 --> 00:50:41,119
us realize how controlled we are and so

1434
00:50:45,030 --> 00:50:42,800
like the et's are saying go in the

1435
00:50:48,230 --> 00:50:45,040
street and fight we're just making it

1436
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:48,240
known that we really have this giant

1437
00:50:53,190 --> 00:50:50,160
thumb on the top of our heads from the

1438
00:50:54,950 --> 00:50:53,200
government and so the government also is

1439
00:50:57,510 --> 00:50:54,960
very interested in the hybridization

1440
00:50:58,309 --> 00:50:57,520
program which i've also had experiences

1441
00:51:01,510 --> 00:50:58,319
with

1442
00:51:03,910 --> 00:51:01,520
and so uh they try to elicit this

1443
00:51:06,069 --> 00:51:03,920
information from experiences sometimes

1444
00:51:07,109 --> 00:51:06,079
in a nice way sometimes in a not so nice

1445
00:51:09,589 --> 00:51:07,119
way

1446
00:51:12,470 --> 00:51:09,599
uh and a lot of times

1447
00:51:13,430 --> 00:51:12,480
my lab experiences are asked to do

1448
00:51:15,270 --> 00:51:13,440
things

1449
00:51:17,030 --> 00:51:15,280
uh as i was

1450
00:51:18,630 --> 00:51:17,040
i was asked to do some kind of

1451
00:51:19,670 --> 00:51:18,640
paranormal

1452
00:51:22,549 --> 00:51:19,680
psychic

1453
00:51:24,230 --> 00:51:22,559
something i'm not quite clear but i i

1454
00:51:26,630 --> 00:51:24,240
know that's what they were asking for me

1455
00:51:28,069 --> 00:51:26,640
and i i said no i didn't want to do it

1456
00:51:30,790 --> 00:51:28,079
because i knew that it was not going to

1457
00:51:32,790 --> 00:51:30,800
be used for good and so these my lab

1458
00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:32,800
experiences are not warm and fuzzy

1459
00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:34,800
experiences

1460
00:51:39,750 --> 00:51:36,720
we definitely feel like we're being used

1461
00:51:43,430 --> 00:51:39,760
in these experi experiences with humans

1462
00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:43,440
uh and we feel like we're being um

1463
00:51:52,710 --> 00:51:51,030
i i can i i was gonna say who uh

1464
00:51:54,710 --> 00:51:52,720
melinda leslie and i'm sure you're

1465
00:51:56,950 --> 00:51:54,720
familiar with some of her work yeah

1466
00:51:58,309 --> 00:51:56,960
she's done a great work on this about

1467
00:52:00,150 --> 00:51:58,319
helping clear someone out because it can

1468
00:52:03,349 --> 00:52:00,160
be so distorted for someone who has an

1469
00:52:05,829 --> 00:52:03,359
experience with genuine say eta uh uh

1470
00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:05,839
entity and then all of a sudden has a

1471
00:52:09,349 --> 00:52:08,400
reabduction right and all of a sudden

1472
00:52:10,710 --> 00:52:09,359
they're going

1473
00:52:11,750 --> 00:52:10,720
and if things are fractured in their

1474
00:52:13,030 --> 00:52:11,760
head at one point they might be like

1475
00:52:14,790 --> 00:52:13,040
well i'm on a craft and another point

1476
00:52:16,630 --> 00:52:14,800
they're like but i'm i'm in a jeep or

1477
00:52:18,390 --> 00:52:16,640
i'm getting hold of an suv you know like

1478
00:52:20,870 --> 00:52:18,400
it's very strange

1479
00:52:24,150 --> 00:52:20,880
and uh there's a lot of things that i

1480
00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:24,160
think perhaps lead into why

1481
00:52:27,670 --> 00:52:25,680
a lot of this can't come out why they

1482
00:52:29,510 --> 00:52:27,680
won't just come out and say hey apollo

1483
00:52:33,430 --> 00:52:29,520
11 welcome tonight good to see you he's

1484
00:52:34,870 --> 00:52:33,440
bringing the aliens ghosts and pizza

1485
00:52:37,349 --> 00:52:34,880
why they can't come right out and emit

1486
00:52:39,109 --> 00:52:37,359
some things besides it being a total

1487
00:52:42,470 --> 00:52:39,119
power shift in it in the the the

1488
00:52:44,150 --> 00:52:42,480
paradigm the paradigm shift that control

1489
00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:44,160
and things of that nature but then they

1490
00:52:46,630 --> 00:52:45,280
would have to admit to some of the

1491
00:52:48,150 --> 00:52:46,640
programs that have been going on some of

1492
00:52:49,349 --> 00:52:48,160
the atrocities in my opinion that have

1493
00:52:50,950 --> 00:52:49,359
taken place

1494
00:52:52,230 --> 00:52:50,960
and who's going to own up to that right

1495
00:52:53,270 --> 00:52:52,240
john and i were hitting on that last

1496
00:52:54,549 --> 00:52:53,280
week is

1497
00:52:56,309 --> 00:52:54,559
uh actually this was a couple weeks ago

1498
00:52:58,230 --> 00:52:56,319
we're talking about do do some people

1499
00:53:00,150 --> 00:52:58,240
said do we give them a pass if they've

1500
00:53:01,430 --> 00:53:00,160
inherited a department that it's not

1501
00:53:02,549 --> 00:53:01,440
maybe doing good things and they maybe

1502
00:53:04,950 --> 00:53:02,559
don't even want to run the department

1503
00:53:07,349 --> 00:53:04,960
anymore you know what do we do

1504
00:53:09,349 --> 00:53:07,359
and i i don't know that i don't have an

1505
00:53:11,349 --> 00:53:09,359
answer for any of that but i think that

1506
00:53:13,030 --> 00:53:11,359
one thing that certainly you're doing a

1507
00:53:14,630 --> 00:53:13,040
great job of doing is helping

1508
00:53:16,630 --> 00:53:14,640
experiences come out and talk about

1509
00:53:18,230 --> 00:53:16,640
their experiences at very least

1510
00:53:20,309 --> 00:53:18,240
giving an opportunity like josh and many

1511
00:53:22,870 --> 00:53:20,319
others did you've helped to realize hey

1512
00:53:24,069 --> 00:53:22,880
i'm not crazy and maybe unfortunately

1513
00:53:25,430 --> 00:53:24,079
people don't always talk about but there

1514
00:53:28,230 --> 00:53:25,440
have been those who have certainly lost

1515
00:53:30,309 --> 00:53:28,240
their life to this whether it be

1516
00:53:31,750 --> 00:53:30,319
self-induced or or

1517
00:53:33,510 --> 00:53:31,760
perhaps somebody else somewhere else to

1518
00:53:35,589 --> 00:53:33,520
come in and that can be an area that

1519
00:53:37,109 --> 00:53:35,599
people forget about a lot is that we're

1520
00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:37,119
still people that have had a traumatic

1521
00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:39,359
experience sometimes of some sort at the

1522
00:53:43,109 --> 00:53:41,520
end of the day and there's not a ton of

1523
00:53:44,710 --> 00:53:43,119
resources for that

1524
00:53:47,349 --> 00:53:44,720
if you've just had your world turned

1525
00:53:48,230 --> 00:53:47,359
upside down overnight you know

1526
00:53:49,990 --> 00:53:48,240
well

1527
00:53:52,309 --> 00:53:50,000
these days

1528
00:53:55,190 --> 00:53:52,319
there are a lot more resources available

1529
00:53:56,950 --> 00:53:55,200
than um in the past because of the

1530
00:53:58,950 --> 00:53:56,960
internet so you can always find some

1531
00:54:00,470 --> 00:53:58,960
kind of group and it is really important

1532
00:54:02,230 --> 00:54:00,480
to come out i'm not saying you have to

1533
00:54:04,470 --> 00:54:02,240
come out to everyone you know i'm not

1534
00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:04,480
saying you have to come out on a global

1535
00:54:09,430 --> 00:54:07,200
platform or do a youtube interview but

1536
00:54:11,510 --> 00:54:09,440
it's important you come out to yourself

1537
00:54:14,230 --> 00:54:11,520
because

1538
00:54:16,230 --> 00:54:14,240
if you don't you're living fake

1539
00:54:19,910 --> 00:54:16,240
you're not being the real you and that

1540
00:54:21,750 --> 00:54:19,920
is going to affect every single arena of

1541
00:54:23,510 --> 00:54:21,760
your life you're going to have difficult

1542
00:54:25,190 --> 00:54:23,520
relationships you're not going to find

1543
00:54:27,750 --> 00:54:25,200
fulfillment you're always going to be

1544
00:54:29,990 --> 00:54:27,760
looking for this person to make me happy

1545
00:54:33,190 --> 00:54:30,000
or that thing to make me happy because

1546
00:54:34,870 --> 00:54:33,200
you're not living real you're being

1547
00:54:37,190 --> 00:54:34,880
something that you're not

1548
00:54:40,470 --> 00:54:37,200
uh so that's why it's important just to

1549
00:54:41,910 --> 00:54:40,480
come out to yourself at least and and

1550
00:54:44,390 --> 00:54:41,920
come out to me

1551
00:54:45,910 --> 00:54:44,400
i offer non-judgmental

1552
00:54:49,349 --> 00:54:45,920
help

1553
00:54:52,069 --> 00:54:49,359
and then then you'll start walking your

1554
00:54:54,549 --> 00:54:52,079
path of authenticity and then you'll see

1555
00:54:57,349 --> 00:54:54,559
how beautiful uh beautifully that your

1556
00:54:58,710 --> 00:54:57,359
life changes because of it

1557
00:55:00,390 --> 00:54:58,720
now what did you if you don't mind

1558
00:55:01,750 --> 00:55:00,400
asking what did you get fall and i i do

1559
00:55:03,109 --> 00:55:01,760
have it here in the scrolling at the

1560
00:55:04,950 --> 00:55:03,119
bottom i'm also going to drop it in the

1561
00:55:07,270 --> 00:55:04,960
chat fab good to see you here tonight

1562
00:55:09,190 --> 00:55:07,280
brother uh which is

1563
00:55:10,789 --> 00:55:09,200
mufon being obviously excuse me the one

1564
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:10,799
i just dropped as a link to your channel

1565
00:55:13,270 --> 00:55:12,000
which people should check out excuse me

1566
00:55:14,470 --> 00:55:13,280
your website because there are many

1567
00:55:16,309 --> 00:55:14,480
other resources there but i will get a

1568
00:55:17,670 --> 00:55:16,319
link to everybody in just a second here

1569
00:55:19,589 --> 00:55:17,680
for a mufon but when did you start

1570
00:55:21,109 --> 00:55:19,599
working with them or what was your uh

1571
00:55:22,470 --> 00:55:21,119
how did you run into that because i know

1572
00:55:23,910 --> 00:55:22,480
that tied back to

1573
00:55:25,190 --> 00:55:23,920
some of your initial

1574
00:55:27,109 --> 00:55:25,200
reaching out going okay i'm going to get

1575
00:55:28,630 --> 00:55:27,119
help i'm going to do something so who

1576
00:55:29,829 --> 00:55:28,640
who got you in touch with mufon or how

1577
00:55:32,630 --> 00:55:29,839
did that happen

1578
00:55:34,470 --> 00:55:32,640
oh thank you for asking so i'm a field

1579
00:55:37,670 --> 00:55:34,480
investigator for mufon for the state of

1580
00:55:39,990 --> 00:55:37,680
north carolina and i'm also on the

1581
00:55:42,710 --> 00:55:40,000
experiencer resource team

1582
00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:42,720
which is made up of only 55 people

1583
00:55:48,470 --> 00:55:45,920
around the world and we specifically

1584
00:55:51,109 --> 00:55:48,480
deal with people who contact us

1585
00:55:54,309 --> 00:55:51,119
that have made contact with et's so as a

1586
00:55:56,710 --> 00:55:54,319
field investigator a lot of that work is

1587
00:55:58,710 --> 00:55:56,720
uh talking to people who submit pictures

1588
00:56:00,870 --> 00:55:58,720
of lights in the sky or they've seen

1589
00:56:03,750 --> 00:56:00,880
something strange

1590
00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:03,760
and we uh we fill out those uh cases and

1591
00:56:09,190 --> 00:56:06,240
we take hours and hours to work on these

1592
00:56:11,270 --> 00:56:09,200
cases uh but the ert or the experience

1593
00:56:13,750 --> 00:56:11,280
to resource team we're dealing with

1594
00:56:16,230 --> 00:56:13,760
people who have had direct contact with

1595
00:56:18,470 --> 00:56:16,240
et's and some of them can handle it and

1596
00:56:22,230 --> 00:56:18,480
some of them just need to talk to

1597
00:56:25,190 --> 00:56:22,240
somebody and just get it out uh so

1598
00:56:28,230 --> 00:56:25,200
when after i got the the second x on my

1599
00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:28,240
tush and i knew i needed help i decided

1600
00:56:31,990 --> 00:56:30,480
i was just gonna let organically let my

1601
00:56:33,430 --> 00:56:32,000
help come because i didn't know who was

1602
00:56:36,069 --> 00:56:33,440
gonna help me

1603
00:56:37,910 --> 00:56:36,079
uh and uh so one of my best friends

1604
00:56:41,430 --> 00:56:37,920
elizabeth who lives on the island of

1605
00:56:44,630 --> 00:56:41,440
maui in hawaii she contacted me okay and

1606
00:56:45,510 --> 00:56:44,640
she said you really should watch

1607
00:56:48,710 --> 00:56:45,520
uh

1608
00:56:51,030 --> 00:56:48,720
unacknowledged by dr steven greer

1609
00:56:52,950 --> 00:56:51,040
so i looked at it one afternoon and that

1610
00:56:55,990 --> 00:56:52,960
lit a fire

1611
00:56:58,069 --> 00:56:56,000
uh under me and as soon as i finished

1612
00:56:59,510 --> 00:56:58,079
watching it i went to my computer i sat

1613
00:57:02,870 --> 00:56:59,520
down and said that's it i'm going to

1614
00:57:04,870 --> 00:57:02,880
send a picture of my ex to somebody yeah

1615
00:57:07,030 --> 00:57:04,880
but i don't know who and then i heard in

1616
00:57:09,270 --> 00:57:07,040
my head move on

1617
00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:09,280
so i didn't move on

1618
00:57:15,430 --> 00:57:12,720
i didn't know really about it and it's a

1619
00:57:17,109 --> 00:57:15,440
true ufo network the largest

1620
00:57:20,390 --> 00:57:17,119
organization in the world that deals

1621
00:57:22,549 --> 00:57:20,400
with ufo and uh et research

1622
00:57:24,470 --> 00:57:22,559
and so i went on a website and there was

1623
00:57:26,789 --> 00:57:24,480
kathleen martin

1624
00:57:28,630 --> 00:57:26,799
who's renowned who's very well known the

1625
00:57:31,109 --> 00:57:28,640
niece of betty and bernie hill and one

1626
00:57:32,710 --> 00:57:31,119
of the leading top researchers in this

1627
00:57:34,470 --> 00:57:32,720
world

1628
00:57:36,309 --> 00:57:34,480
and i saw her picture and i'm like

1629
00:57:38,870 --> 00:57:36,319
that's it she's gonna help me

1630
00:57:41,510 --> 00:57:38,880
so i emailed her and about two days

1631
00:57:43,589 --> 00:57:41,520
later she emailed me right back uh and

1632
00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:43,599
then we skyped and she spent about an

1633
00:57:47,349 --> 00:57:45,119
hour and a half with me and she

1634
00:57:49,270 --> 00:57:47,359
validated everything for me and it was

1635
00:57:51,270 --> 00:57:49,280
such an important phone call

1636
00:57:52,870 --> 00:57:51,280
and i said to her

1637
00:57:55,030 --> 00:57:52,880
what am i supposed to do with all the

1638
00:57:57,589 --> 00:57:55,040
information that the graves have given

1639
00:57:59,430 --> 00:57:57,599
me about the hybridization program and

1640
00:58:01,190 --> 00:57:59,440
the fate of the earth and all this other

1641
00:58:04,230 --> 00:58:01,200
information that i have

1642
00:58:06,470 --> 00:58:04,240
uh because i see in my mind's eye i see

1643
00:58:08,390 --> 00:58:06,480
myself on stage talking to people what

1644
00:58:10,069 --> 00:58:08,400
am i supposed to do she was saying i

1645
00:58:11,670 --> 00:58:10,079
can't tell you what to do you have to

1646
00:58:14,630 --> 00:58:11,680
figure out what to do

1647
00:58:17,030 --> 00:58:14,640
so after that phone call

1648
00:58:18,870 --> 00:58:17,040
uh i'm not gonna do anything

1649
00:58:20,789 --> 00:58:18,880
i'm just not gonna i'm just gonna let

1650
00:58:23,349 --> 00:58:20,799
her organically happen if i do something

1651
00:58:25,430 --> 00:58:23,359
i do if i don't i don't whatever yeah

1652
00:58:28,150 --> 00:58:25,440
and then a couple of months later i woke

1653
00:58:30,630 --> 00:58:28,160
up and i announced i'm writing a book

1654
00:58:33,990 --> 00:58:30,640
and i wrote the book and it was like

1655
00:58:36,549 --> 00:58:34,000
coming out and then shortly just i think

1656
00:58:38,230 --> 00:58:36,559
right after the book came out aliencon

1657
00:58:42,150 --> 00:58:38,240
uh contacted me

1658
00:58:45,589 --> 00:58:42,160
uh this was 2018 in baltimore uh to come

1659
00:58:47,109 --> 00:58:45,599
speak at alien con and

1660
00:58:50,710 --> 00:58:47,119
that's

1661
00:58:53,190 --> 00:58:50,720
where i met a lot of experiences

1662
00:58:55,190 --> 00:58:53,200
and that's when i realized oh this is

1663
00:58:57,829 --> 00:58:55,200
what i want to do i want to help

1664
00:59:00,950 --> 00:58:57,839
experiences because lots of people came

1665
00:59:02,950 --> 00:59:00,960
up to my table and said i've never told

1666
00:59:05,990 --> 00:59:02,960
anyone this before but i'm going to tell

1667
00:59:09,270 --> 00:59:06,000
you and that's music to my ears

1668
00:59:10,470 --> 00:59:09,280
and it happened so much i realized oh my

1669
00:59:12,309 --> 00:59:10,480
gosh

1670
00:59:14,390 --> 00:59:12,319
uh i wonder if maybe you're in the

1671
00:59:17,510 --> 00:59:14,400
minority if you're not having e.t

1672
00:59:18,710 --> 00:59:17,520
contact i'm beginning to think that

1673
00:59:20,710 --> 00:59:18,720
yeah

1674
00:59:22,069 --> 00:59:20,720
you know and it's so we were just this

1675
00:59:23,990 --> 00:59:22,079
is something again the

1676
00:59:25,030 --> 00:59:24,000
nice kind of funny synchronicity we were

1677
00:59:26,470 --> 00:59:25,040
just talking about that's not just

1678
00:59:28,309 --> 00:59:26,480
saying the

1679
00:59:30,390 --> 00:59:28,319
the amount of people out there that more

1680
00:59:31,990 --> 00:59:30,400
than likely have had some contact in

1681
00:59:33,990 --> 00:59:32,000
their life and i don't know what the

1682
00:59:35,190 --> 00:59:34,000
decision-making process is you know

1683
00:59:36,870 --> 00:59:35,200
maybe even for yourself i've heard you

1684
00:59:38,470 --> 00:59:36,880
reference that

1685
00:59:40,789 --> 00:59:38,480
you don't know that you were

1686
00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:40,799
specifically specially chosen and maybe

1687
00:59:43,910 --> 00:59:42,240
you were i mean i think that you've had

1688
00:59:46,150 --> 00:59:43,920
some pretty amazing experiences you know

1689
00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:46,160
for instance let's hit on some of the

1690
00:59:50,150 --> 00:59:48,720
the messages you were given i mean um

1691
00:59:52,390 --> 00:59:50,160
when when did that become clear to you

1692
00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:52,400
when did you get i guess a download or

1693
00:59:55,270 --> 00:59:54,160
a clear realization of that but actually

1694
00:59:56,870 --> 00:59:55,280
really quick before i jump right in that

1695
00:59:58,710 --> 00:59:56,880
because i'm going to miss it otherwise

1696
01:00:00,549 --> 00:59:58,720
uh gospel 77 and it leads into what

1697
01:00:02,470 --> 01:00:00,559
we're talking about anyways uh 77th

1698
01:00:04,069 --> 01:00:02,480
perennial asked i've heard that some

1699
01:00:07,670 --> 01:00:04,079
experiencers feel that they are being

1700
01:00:09,190 --> 01:00:07,680
trained to be facilitators or guides to

1701
01:00:11,030 --> 01:00:09,200
people once the et's announced

1702
01:00:12,549 --> 01:00:11,040
themselves to humanity what are seth's

1703
01:00:15,109 --> 01:00:12,559
thoughts so in that spirit of his

1704
01:00:17,270 --> 01:00:15,119
question or hers question um

1705
01:00:19,109 --> 01:00:17,280
what are your thoughts on that as well

1706
01:00:21,990 --> 01:00:19,119
as when you received this download what

1707
01:00:23,750 --> 01:00:22,000
were the information that you received

1708
01:00:25,829 --> 01:00:23,760
well thank you for that question and

1709
01:00:27,910 --> 01:00:25,839
often that is what happens maybe in the

1710
01:00:29,270 --> 01:00:27,920
very beginning when an experiencer comes

1711
01:00:30,950 --> 01:00:29,280
out

1712
01:00:33,270 --> 01:00:30,960
they're not even thinking of really

1713
01:00:36,150 --> 01:00:33,280
coming out and telling other people but

1714
01:00:38,150 --> 01:00:36,160
it seems to naturally happen the more

1715
01:00:40,630 --> 01:00:38,160
that they investigate the more they feel

1716
01:00:43,109 --> 01:00:40,640
more comfortable with it

1717
01:00:44,789 --> 01:00:43,119
eventually many experiences just

1718
01:00:47,349 --> 01:00:44,799
announced oh well i have to tell the

1719
01:00:48,870 --> 01:00:47,359
world now like i can't hide this and i

1720
01:00:49,670 --> 01:00:48,880
can't tell you why i have to tell the

1721
01:00:51,750 --> 01:00:49,680
world

1722
01:00:53,750 --> 01:00:51,760
but just like me i can't tell you why i

1723
01:00:56,150 --> 01:00:53,760
have to do this i just know i have to

1724
01:00:58,630 --> 01:00:56,160
freaking do it and if i don't do it i'm

1725
01:01:01,190 --> 01:00:58,640
not going to be happy that's all i know

1726
01:01:03,990 --> 01:01:01,200
there's just like this drive that comes

1727
01:01:06,150 --> 01:01:04,000
within you so is this something that's

1728
01:01:09,109 --> 01:01:06,160
chosen before we incarnate into this

1729
01:01:11,030 --> 01:01:09,119
body possibly

1730
01:01:13,430 --> 01:01:11,040
i do help people discover their sole

1731
01:01:15,430 --> 01:01:13,440
purpose and uh there is a purpose that

1732
01:01:18,069 --> 01:01:15,440
we all share a collective purpose which

1733
01:01:19,910 --> 01:01:18,079
is to love as much as possible and that

1734
01:01:22,630 --> 01:01:19,920
starts with ourselves which is where

1735
01:01:25,349 --> 01:01:22,640
most of us get uh tripped up

1736
01:01:26,710 --> 01:01:25,359
uh and but in the act of loving yourself

1737
01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:26,720
and showing love for yourself that's

1738
01:01:32,230 --> 01:01:29,200
when you express your authenticity

1739
01:01:35,349 --> 01:01:32,240
and uh so when i decided to show love

1740
01:01:37,109 --> 01:01:35,359
for myself that's when i started healing

1741
01:01:39,190 --> 01:01:37,119
and that's when i started facing my

1742
01:01:41,430 --> 01:01:39,200
lifetime of experiences and i'm not

1743
01:01:43,349 --> 01:01:41,440
afraid of it anymore and i don't want it

1744
01:01:45,030 --> 01:01:43,359
to go away i want it to continue because

1745
01:01:47,190 --> 01:01:45,040
it does continue

1746
01:01:49,670 --> 01:01:47,200
and

1747
01:01:51,910 --> 01:01:49,680
most experiences experiences who've been

1748
01:01:53,510 --> 01:01:51,920
surveyed most of them say they don't

1749
01:01:55,270 --> 01:01:53,520
want it to stop

1750
01:01:56,390 --> 01:01:55,280
in the beginning they were afraid but

1751
01:01:58,069 --> 01:01:56,400
after a while

1752
01:01:59,670 --> 01:01:58,079
no i don't want to stop because this is

1753
01:02:02,150 --> 01:01:59,680
like

1754
01:02:06,630 --> 01:02:02,160
it's brilliant it's amazing and it's

1755
01:02:09,829 --> 01:02:06,640
changing the person in a beautiful way

1756
01:02:11,990 --> 01:02:09,839
do so for yourself uh you know because i

1757
01:02:13,589 --> 01:02:12,000
and i don't want to necessarily you know

1758
01:02:16,069 --> 01:02:13,599
pigeonhole towards anything but i do

1759
01:02:18,150 --> 01:02:16,079
have one question i i wasn't sure the

1760
01:02:19,750 --> 01:02:18,160
chronological order that it happened in

1761
01:02:22,150 --> 01:02:19,760
which was there was a moment where you

1762
01:02:25,349 --> 01:02:22,160
were being shown um

1763
01:02:27,349 --> 01:02:25,359
i believe a uh a young one could say a

1764
01:02:29,510 --> 01:02:27,359
child of some sort other human or

1765
01:02:33,109 --> 01:02:29,520
whatever and a tube or cryo chamber of

1766
01:02:35,750 --> 01:02:33,119
some sort was that prior to the marks or

1767
01:02:39,029 --> 01:02:35,760
after when was that transition yeah

1768
01:02:41,109 --> 01:02:39,039
that was prior i was shown a baby

1769
01:02:44,270 --> 01:02:41,119
okay 2012.

1770
01:02:47,589 --> 01:02:44,280
and then uh yes that's it and then in

1771
01:02:49,510 --> 01:02:47,599
2016 i went to roswell and i made

1772
01:02:51,910 --> 01:02:49,520
contact with the grayson roswell and

1773
01:02:54,309 --> 01:02:51,920
then they referred to this time that

1774
01:02:56,630 --> 01:02:54,319
they uh showed me a baby in a tube so

1775
01:02:59,829 --> 01:02:56,640
when i was shown this baby in a tube i

1776
01:03:02,470 --> 01:02:59,839
had not come out i had just uh left my

1777
01:03:04,150 --> 01:03:02,480
second marriage i was healing

1778
01:03:07,029 --> 01:03:04,160
i was living in an apartment all by

1779
01:03:11,510 --> 01:03:07,039
myself and the doors just

1780
01:03:12,470 --> 01:03:11,520
flew open as far as e.t contact went

1781
01:03:13,670 --> 01:03:12,480
it was

1782
01:03:15,270 --> 01:03:13,680
a lot

1783
01:03:18,069 --> 01:03:15,280
and so

1784
01:03:20,549 --> 01:03:18,079
i was shown this baby in this tube as

1785
01:03:23,029 --> 01:03:20,559
you can see um

1786
01:03:24,950 --> 01:03:23,039
it was floating in a liquid and the room

1787
01:03:27,910 --> 01:03:24,960
was just dark i couldn't see anything

1788
01:03:30,789 --> 01:03:27,920
else in the room and uh

1789
01:03:33,510 --> 01:03:30,799
the baby's eyes were open and they were

1790
01:03:34,390 --> 01:03:33,520
the bluest eyes i have ever seen in my

1791
01:03:37,510 --> 01:03:34,400
life

1792
01:03:39,190 --> 01:03:37,520
and even though the the baby's leg was

1793
01:03:41,430 --> 01:03:39,200
positioned in such a way that i couldn't

1794
01:03:43,750 --> 01:03:41,440
see the sex i knew it was a boy

1795
01:03:45,829 --> 01:03:43,760
so i'm looking at this baby in a tube

1796
01:03:47,589 --> 01:03:45,839
i'm confused i don't know why i'm

1797
01:03:49,750 --> 01:03:47,599
looking at a baby into it why is there a

1798
01:03:51,589 --> 01:03:49,760
baby in liquid and

1799
01:03:52,710 --> 01:03:51,599
it was illuminated

1800
01:03:58,789 --> 01:03:52,720
and

1801
01:04:02,150 --> 01:03:58,799
three grays

1802
01:04:04,069 --> 01:04:02,160
tall medium and short and back then i

1803
01:04:05,430 --> 01:04:04,079
didn't know that grays came in different

1804
01:04:07,510 --> 01:04:05,440
sizes

1805
01:04:08,549 --> 01:04:07,520
you just saw there was one standard set

1806
01:04:09,750 --> 01:04:08,559
right

1807
01:04:12,390 --> 01:04:09,760
yeah

1808
01:04:14,470 --> 01:04:12,400
and they said to me telepathically take

1809
01:04:16,789 --> 01:04:14,480
your time take all the time that you

1810
01:04:18,470 --> 01:04:16,799
need we're just going to stay back here

1811
01:04:20,390 --> 01:04:18,480
everything's okay

1812
01:04:22,789 --> 01:04:20,400
and i turned around and i looked at the

1813
01:04:25,750 --> 01:04:22,799
baby and i'm still like what i don't

1814
01:04:28,069 --> 01:04:25,760
understand what's going on and then i

1815
01:04:30,150 --> 01:04:28,079
popped back in my bedroom and i told

1816
01:04:32,390 --> 01:04:30,160
myself forget about it i didn't tell

1817
01:04:34,789 --> 01:04:32,400
anybody and i just ignore it

1818
01:04:37,589 --> 01:04:34,799
well in roswell

1819
01:04:38,549 --> 01:04:37,599
which was a completely unexpected trip

1820
01:04:41,670 --> 01:04:38,559
um

1821
01:04:43,750 --> 01:04:41,680
they reminded me of that and they said

1822
01:04:45,670 --> 01:04:43,760
uh you are part of the hybridization

1823
01:04:48,230 --> 01:04:45,680
program and they gave me a lot of

1824
01:04:50,230 --> 01:04:48,240
information uh that there are lots of

1825
01:04:52,069 --> 01:04:50,240
people who are part of the hybridization

1826
01:04:54,309 --> 01:04:52,079
program and they don't know

1827
01:04:56,230 --> 01:04:54,319
and there are actually billions of these

1828
01:04:57,990 --> 01:04:56,240
embryos that they've created now i'm

1829
01:04:59,990 --> 01:04:58,000
just talking about the hybridization

1830
01:05:02,710 --> 01:05:00,000
between humans and the grace there's

1831
01:05:06,630 --> 01:05:02,720
other hybridization programs too and

1832
01:05:08,950 --> 01:05:06,640
like you said i have a millab experience

1833
01:05:11,670 --> 01:05:08,960
where i was healing hybrid babies with

1834
01:05:12,549 --> 01:05:11,680
these uh with a human doctor at a human

1835
01:05:14,870 --> 01:05:12,559
nurse

1836
01:05:17,589 --> 01:05:14,880
and i don't know what hybridization

1837
01:05:20,069 --> 01:05:17,599
program that was uh the babies were very

1838
01:05:21,990 --> 01:05:20,079
sickly and they wanted me to heal them

1839
01:05:24,230 --> 01:05:22,000
which is something that i hear a lot

1840
01:05:25,990 --> 01:05:24,240
from experiencers who uh

1841
01:05:28,470 --> 01:05:26,000
also have uh

1842
01:05:31,910 --> 01:05:28,480
hybrid experiences where they're handed

1843
01:05:34,789 --> 01:05:31,920
a baby and uh for the baby to grow

1844
01:05:39,510 --> 01:05:34,799
uh in a healthy fashion that they have

1845
01:05:43,270 --> 01:05:41,270
yeah because samantha moa she hits on

1846
01:05:44,950 --> 01:05:43,280
that a lot of well she's not the only

1847
01:05:46,150 --> 01:05:44,960
one you're right there are many that

1848
01:05:47,750 --> 01:05:46,160
have had

1849
01:05:48,950 --> 01:05:47,760
instances like that right where they've

1850
01:05:51,430 --> 01:05:48,960
they've had to need some sort of

1851
01:05:52,710 --> 01:05:51,440
connection yeah i think if you look at

1852
01:05:55,589 --> 01:05:52,720
they've

1853
01:05:57,510 --> 01:05:55,599
disguise but this was real work that was

1854
01:05:58,470 --> 01:05:57,520
done back in the day in the 40s and 30s

1855
01:06:00,789 --> 01:05:58,480
even

1856
01:06:02,829 --> 01:06:00,799
um they actually studied how long human

1857
01:06:04,710 --> 01:06:02,839
babies would last without physical

1858
01:06:06,230 --> 01:06:04,720
contact and

1859
01:06:07,750 --> 01:06:06,240
terrible stuff well it was stuff that

1860
01:06:08,870 --> 01:06:07,760
you know the germans were studying back

1861
01:06:10,549 --> 01:06:08,880
in the day

1862
01:06:12,390 --> 01:06:10,559
and um

1863
01:06:13,750 --> 01:06:12,400
it uh they they were there was a

1864
01:06:16,150 --> 01:06:13,760
majority of the babies and i don't want

1865
01:06:18,470 --> 01:06:16,160
the exact percentage but i want to say

1866
01:06:20,549 --> 01:06:18,480
it was well over almost 80 percent that

1867
01:06:22,549 --> 01:06:20,559
didn't make it if they were not touched

1868
01:06:24,870 --> 01:06:22,559
by humans in the beginning so there is

1869
01:06:25,910 --> 01:06:24,880
something about us needing i mean i

1870
01:06:27,109 --> 01:06:25,920
think anybody who's ever been around a

1871
01:06:29,029 --> 01:06:27,119
little baby in the beginning anyways

1872
01:06:30,710 --> 01:06:29,039
anybody certainly if you've been a mom

1873
01:06:32,230 --> 01:06:30,720
and you've birthed any children

1874
01:06:33,910 --> 01:06:32,240
when they when they come out i mean they

1875
01:06:35,829 --> 01:06:33,920
like they're just right they're there

1876
01:06:37,270 --> 01:06:35,839
and they they grab on and they feel and

1877
01:06:40,390 --> 01:06:37,280
they're needing that they just want to

1878
01:06:43,029 --> 01:06:40,400
cuddle in i think that something must be

1879
01:06:45,510 --> 01:06:43,039
about us that maybe in our dna that

1880
01:06:46,870 --> 01:06:45,520
needs that touch i don't know what it is

1881
01:06:48,710 --> 01:06:46,880
but it's interesting to know that there

1882
01:06:51,349 --> 01:06:48,720
was studies done on that that

1883
01:06:52,870 --> 01:06:51,359
um yeah a messed up study for indeed

1884
01:06:55,029 --> 01:06:52,880
simon like i said i don't know the exact

1885
01:06:56,789 --> 01:06:55,039
name of the study but i do remember that

1886
01:06:58,390 --> 01:06:56,799
it was something that was studied and

1887
01:06:59,270 --> 01:06:58,400
they unfortunately have numbers based on

1888
01:07:04,390 --> 01:06:59,280
that

1889
01:07:06,470 --> 01:07:04,400
they're kind of i guess coming to you

1890
01:07:08,230 --> 01:07:06,480
america's like hey sev you've got to

1891
01:07:09,829 --> 01:07:08,240
heal this baby i mean i would almost

1892
01:07:11,270 --> 01:07:09,839
kind of i'm not a doctor i don't know if

1893
01:07:12,710 --> 01:07:11,280
you're a doctor like did you have a

1894
01:07:15,510 --> 01:07:12,720
background in this i mean what were you

1895
01:07:18,309 --> 01:07:15,520
thinking well uh i have a biology degree

1896
01:07:19,829 --> 01:07:18,319
from loyola and i was pre-med and i had

1897
01:07:21,829 --> 01:07:19,839
an apprenticeship at university of

1898
01:07:23,910 --> 01:07:21,839
maryland hospital when i was in college

1899
01:07:26,150 --> 01:07:23,920
and then when i uh

1900
01:07:27,670 --> 01:07:26,160
in my senior year or my junior year i

1901
01:07:29,349 --> 01:07:27,680
can't remember i decided i didn't want

1902
01:07:31,270 --> 01:07:29,359
to go to med school

1903
01:07:32,230 --> 01:07:31,280
um

1904
01:07:34,950 --> 01:07:32,240
but

1905
01:07:37,829 --> 01:07:34,960
in this experience that i had where i

1906
01:07:39,990 --> 01:07:37,839
was handed these two babies to heal

1907
01:07:43,109 --> 01:07:40,000
um once again i didn't feel like they

1908
01:07:44,870 --> 01:07:43,119
were mine and it was a human doctor that

1909
01:07:47,670 --> 01:07:44,880
was standing next to me and i got the

1910
01:07:50,069 --> 01:07:47,680
feeling that i was i don't know if i was

1911
01:07:52,710 --> 01:07:50,079
being tested but it felt like

1912
01:07:55,029 --> 01:07:52,720
um i had been groomed for this and that

1913
01:07:58,150 --> 01:07:55,039
this was like my

1914
01:07:59,829 --> 01:07:58,160
like my final proof that i could do it

1915
01:08:02,390 --> 01:07:59,839
to this doctor like the doctor was

1916
01:08:05,910 --> 01:08:02,400
observing me so he handed me this one

1917
01:08:06,710 --> 01:08:05,920
baby and it had dark hair and dark eyes

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01:08:14,470 --> 01:08:06,720
and

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01:08:17,910 --> 01:08:14,480
swaddled in a lot of cloth okay so it

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01:08:21,749 --> 01:08:17,920
was uh spitting up blood

1921
01:08:23,590 --> 01:08:21,759
so i put my hands on it and uh tried to

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01:08:24,870 --> 01:08:23,600
heal it and then they took that baby

1923
01:08:27,829 --> 01:08:24,880
away and then they brought me another

1924
01:08:28,870 --> 01:08:27,839
one that was also human head spitting up

1925
01:08:30,950 --> 01:08:28,880
blood

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01:08:32,630 --> 01:08:30,960
so i put my hands on it and then it

1927
01:08:35,269 --> 01:08:32,640
started to roll off the table it was

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01:08:39,110 --> 01:08:35,279
like a surgical table

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01:08:42,709 --> 01:08:39,120
and so i went to grab alex cloth and as

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01:08:45,910 --> 01:08:42,719
i did the cloth came off and i saw its

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01:08:49,269 --> 01:08:45,920
body was super skinny like the neck the

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01:08:50,789 --> 01:08:49,279
size of my pinky and its arms really

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01:08:53,829 --> 01:08:50,799
and i went

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01:08:55,269 --> 01:08:53,839
and then that's all i remember

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01:08:56,709 --> 01:08:55,279
wow

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01:08:59,349 --> 01:08:56,719
do you think that there there was

1937
01:09:00,870 --> 01:08:59,359
swaddling process which was

1938
01:09:03,030 --> 01:09:00,880
twofold maybe actually to keep them

1939
01:09:05,110 --> 01:09:03,040
intact to keep them warm and also to to

1940
01:09:06,789 --> 01:09:05,120
prevent you know like

1941
01:09:10,789 --> 01:09:06,799
are we

1942
01:09:12,070 --> 01:09:10,799
sometimes as humans that if we see

1943
01:09:13,669 --> 01:09:12,080
something that just challenges our

1944
01:09:14,950 --> 01:09:13,679
realities we know that that there's a

1945
01:09:16,229 --> 01:09:14,960
moment where we just

1946
01:09:17,430 --> 01:09:16,239
you know because so often it seems like

1947
01:09:19,269 --> 01:09:17,440
like in your instance there where you've

1948
01:09:20,950 --> 01:09:19,279
seen something that's not normal you

1949
01:09:22,229 --> 01:09:20,960
have this reaction and all sudden you're

1950
01:09:25,110 --> 01:09:22,239
back or you're just you're out of the

1951
01:09:27,269 --> 01:09:25,120
experience and i i can i never can seem

1952
01:09:28,470 --> 01:09:27,279
to wrap my head around that that's why

1953
01:09:31,110 --> 01:09:28,480
certain people that have had such

1954
01:09:32,470 --> 01:09:31,120
in-depth experiences sometimes not

1955
01:09:34,709 --> 01:09:32,480
always that they keep their cool but

1956
01:09:36,470 --> 01:09:34,719
there have been some we take the carl

1957
01:09:38,550 --> 01:09:36,480
higdon abduction for instance when he

1958
01:09:39,910 --> 01:09:38,560
was like they were like hey you know

1959
01:09:41,189 --> 01:09:39,920
that i mean also one basically just says

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01:09:43,110 --> 01:09:41,199
hate him and he's like hey what's up

1961
01:09:44,709 --> 01:09:43,120
like he says hey what's up back but he

1962
01:09:45,990 --> 01:09:44,719
still again had those pop situations

1963
01:09:47,430 --> 01:09:46,000
where he's popping in and out of

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01:09:49,829 --> 01:09:47,440
different spaces

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01:09:51,269 --> 01:09:49,839
but i just wonder if

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01:09:53,829 --> 01:09:51,279
when we

1967
01:09:55,830 --> 01:09:53,839
why they i guess would react to you that

1968
01:09:57,510 --> 01:09:55,840
way versus just saying hey this is the

1969
01:09:58,390 --> 01:09:57,520
process you know because

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01:09:59,910 --> 01:09:58,400
um

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01:10:01,270 --> 01:09:59,920
i don't know i mean i guess those are

1972
01:10:02,470 --> 01:10:01,280
some of those lifelong questions that

1973
01:10:04,310 --> 01:10:02,480
will always strive to kind of know

1974
01:10:07,030 --> 01:10:04,320
certainly yourself more than even me i

1975
01:10:08,790 --> 01:10:07,040
mean you you experienced it so

1976
01:10:10,709 --> 01:10:08,800
it's just a shock to the senses like if

1977
01:10:13,350 --> 01:10:10,719
they had handed me that baby coughing up

1978
01:10:15,350 --> 01:10:13,360
blood with like a a huge head compared

1979
01:10:18,470 --> 01:10:15,360
to its body with like a little t tiny

1980
01:10:19,990 --> 01:10:18,480
alien body and a normal head like i i

1981
01:10:21,110 --> 01:10:20,000
don't know if i would have wanted to

1982
01:10:22,550 --> 01:10:21,120
touch it

1983
01:10:24,070 --> 01:10:22,560
i don't know if i maybe i could have

1984
01:10:25,669 --> 01:10:24,080
sent as much love to it i would have

1985
01:10:28,709 --> 01:10:25,679
been so freaked out

1986
01:10:30,709 --> 01:10:28,719
uh and you know just because the memory

1987
01:10:32,709 --> 01:10:30,719
ends there doesn't mean the experience

1988
01:10:35,669 --> 01:10:32,719
end there very true

1989
01:10:38,070 --> 01:10:35,679
ends there so maybe later

1990
01:10:40,070 --> 01:10:38,080
i might remember more

1991
01:10:42,630 --> 01:10:40,080
so i do believe that

1992
01:10:45,189 --> 01:10:42,640
memories and information and thought

1993
01:10:46,070 --> 01:10:45,199
have energy to them and

1994
01:10:48,630 --> 01:10:46,080
uh

1995
01:10:51,350 --> 01:10:48,640
what we call aha moments are simply just

1996
01:10:53,750 --> 01:10:51,360
the alignment of the energy of a

1997
01:10:55,510 --> 01:10:53,760
particular knowledge with your energy

1998
01:10:57,669 --> 01:10:55,520
and so because we have all the answers

1999
01:10:59,990 --> 01:10:57,679
within us and they all have their own

2000
01:11:02,550 --> 01:11:00,000
energetic imprint to them and as we

2001
01:11:04,870 --> 01:11:02,560
raise our personal vibration then we can

2002
01:11:07,030 --> 01:11:04,880
plug into this information that's of a

2003
01:11:09,430 --> 01:11:07,040
higher frequency as well and sometimes

2004
01:11:11,510 --> 01:11:09,440
we call those aha moments but it's just

2005
01:11:15,189 --> 01:11:11,520
simply oh i'm aligned with the energy of

2006
01:11:17,590 --> 01:11:15,199
this information now i understand it

2007
01:11:19,830 --> 01:11:17,600
that makes sense and that's so true like

2008
01:11:20,950 --> 01:11:19,840
even my goodness

2009
01:11:21,990 --> 01:11:20,960
we say this all the time and i'll

2010
01:11:23,189 --> 01:11:22,000
probably say for the rest of my life

2011
01:11:24,630 --> 01:11:23,199
because we'll always be learning right

2012
01:11:25,510 --> 01:11:24,640
or striving to be better and learn is

2013
01:11:29,350 --> 01:11:25,520
that

2014
01:11:31,910 --> 01:11:29,360
thought about considering a year ago two

2015
01:11:32,870 --> 01:11:31,920
years left alone five ten years ago

2016
01:11:34,070 --> 01:11:32,880
um

2017
01:11:35,990 --> 01:11:34,080
so i guess like you're talking about

2018
01:11:38,070 --> 01:11:36,000
that ascension of just

2019
01:11:40,390 --> 01:11:38,080
i guess stepping up the uh

2020
01:11:41,430 --> 01:11:40,400
the vibrational chain i guess if you

2021
01:11:43,430 --> 01:11:41,440
want to call it whatever you might want

2022
01:11:44,630 --> 01:11:43,440
to call it to become more comfortable

2023
01:11:46,070 --> 01:11:44,640
there's things that i think about now

2024
01:11:47,189 --> 01:11:46,080
just as readily

2025
01:11:48,470 --> 01:11:47,199
like some of the stuff ben and i were

2026
01:11:49,990 --> 01:11:48,480
talking about today where i went man to

2027
01:11:51,590 --> 01:11:50,000
have that conversation two years ago we

2028
01:11:52,950 --> 01:11:51,600
both would have been very very

2029
01:11:54,790 --> 01:11:52,960
trepidatious to speak to each other

2030
01:11:56,550 --> 01:11:54,800
about it because it was so like

2031
01:11:58,470 --> 01:11:56,560
it's all consciousness based it's all

2032
01:11:59,669 --> 01:11:58,480
it's all just frequency based on these

2033
01:12:03,430 --> 01:11:59,679
things that just

2034
01:12:04,870 --> 01:12:03,440
technically we haven't 100 proven yet um

2035
01:12:07,590 --> 01:12:04,880
and i'm at the point where i don't need

2036
01:12:09,830 --> 01:12:07,600
that sign i think there's proof you know

2037
01:12:11,270 --> 01:12:09,840
i believe there is two i believe there's

2038
01:12:13,030 --> 01:12:11,280
enough proof there they just don't want

2039
01:12:15,110 --> 01:12:13,040
to put their little stamp of approval on

2040
01:12:17,669 --> 01:12:15,120
it yet uh gospel has another question

2041
01:12:19,590 --> 01:12:17,679
for us says hey has seth considered that

2042
01:12:21,750 --> 01:12:19,600
the military people at abduction events

2043
01:12:23,750 --> 01:12:21,760
are et's in disguise to make the person

2044
01:12:27,350 --> 01:12:23,760
feel at ease if not why would the

2045
01:12:28,950 --> 01:12:27,360
military allow humans to see them

2046
01:12:31,189 --> 01:12:28,960
so that's cool yes i have to talk about

2047
01:12:32,709 --> 01:12:31,199
that and it is very possible

2048
01:12:35,510 --> 01:12:32,719
uh

2049
01:12:38,070 --> 01:12:35,520
and that reminds me of an experience i

2050
01:12:39,669 --> 01:12:38,080
had where i was in this uh

2051
01:12:41,669 --> 01:12:39,679
like this uh

2052
01:12:43,110 --> 01:12:41,679
government type office and i've been in

2053
01:12:46,709 --> 01:12:43,120
this room before

2054
01:12:48,709 --> 01:12:46,719
and uh there's an office upon it

2055
01:12:51,669 --> 01:12:48,719
and there is just this big

2056
01:12:53,669 --> 01:12:51,679
window serving as a partition and i sit

2057
01:12:54,790 --> 01:12:53,679
at this table and i've been there before

2058
01:12:57,110 --> 01:12:54,800
and so

2059
01:12:59,669 --> 01:12:57,120
one time there was one of those

2060
01:13:02,390 --> 01:12:59,679
young military men standing next to me

2061
01:13:04,550 --> 01:13:02,400
and looking into the other office

2062
01:13:05,990 --> 01:13:04,560
through the window and they bring in a

2063
01:13:08,790 --> 01:13:06,000
gray

2064
01:13:10,470 --> 01:13:08,800
and the man says to me this is the

2065
01:13:12,149 --> 01:13:10,480
original gray

2066
01:13:13,350 --> 01:13:12,159
and they take that one out

2067
01:13:14,630 --> 01:13:13,360
in a

2068
01:13:16,550 --> 01:13:14,640
shorter one

2069
01:13:18,630 --> 01:13:16,560
and he said this is the hybrid of the

2070
01:13:19,990 --> 01:13:18,640
original gray and then they took that

2071
01:13:21,830 --> 01:13:20,000
one out and then they brought in this

2072
01:13:23,590 --> 01:13:21,840
the short one the little one and they

2073
01:13:26,310 --> 01:13:23,600
said that's the hybrid of the hybrid of

2074
01:13:27,430 --> 01:13:26,320
the original and then i understood with

2075
01:13:33,110 --> 01:13:27,440
each

2076
01:13:35,430 --> 01:13:33,120
hybridization the the sentience of the

2077
01:13:38,070 --> 01:13:35,440
being was removed so

2078
01:13:40,070 --> 01:13:38,080
the original gray was have a sentience

2079
01:13:42,310 --> 01:13:40,080
and a consciousness just like we do the

2080
01:13:46,070 --> 01:13:42,320
middle one kinda and then the small one

2081
01:13:48,870 --> 01:13:46,080
was truly much more robotic

2082
01:13:52,149 --> 01:13:48,880
which is kind of sad i mean i but i can

2083
01:13:55,750 --> 01:13:52,159
see where we're on the precipice we as a

2084
01:13:57,830 --> 01:13:55,760
species as humans here i can see where

2085
01:13:58,950 --> 01:13:57,840
we've got to be careful how we make that

2086
01:14:01,430 --> 01:13:58,960
step i don't think there's there's no

2087
01:14:04,390 --> 01:14:01,440
going back we're already there um

2088
01:14:06,229 --> 01:14:04,400
with some sort of emerge i just think

2089
01:14:08,550 --> 01:14:06,239
at what process or where what

2090
01:14:09,830 --> 01:14:08,560
limitations we put on that to where we

2091
01:14:11,590 --> 01:14:09,840
don't

2092
01:14:13,030 --> 01:14:11,600
lose things

2093
01:14:14,470 --> 01:14:13,040
that are i guess innately what we

2094
01:14:15,669 --> 01:14:14,480
consider to be human

2095
01:14:16,950 --> 01:14:15,679
but it is weird because there are

2096
01:14:18,630 --> 01:14:16,960
certain things that

2097
01:14:20,790 --> 01:14:18,640
you know like i have tons of issues

2098
01:14:22,070 --> 01:14:20,800
concentrating i'm terrible i i've never

2099
01:14:23,990 --> 01:14:22,080
been a good reader for these reasons

2100
01:14:26,149 --> 01:14:24,000
i've never you know whatever so somehow

2101
01:14:27,270 --> 01:14:26,159
i could just take that little cork out

2102
01:14:29,030 --> 01:14:27,280
of me right

2103
01:14:30,470 --> 01:14:29,040
i suppose some days would help me would

2104
01:14:32,310 --> 01:14:30,480
help with certain things but at the same

2105
01:14:33,750 --> 01:14:32,320
time it's been a beautiful thing for me

2106
01:14:35,910 --> 01:14:33,760
for like interacting with groups of

2107
01:14:38,870 --> 01:14:35,920
people and and when i'm doing things

2108
01:14:41,189 --> 01:14:38,880
require multiple attention spans then it

2109
01:14:43,350 --> 01:14:41,199
works well well when it requires that

2110
01:14:44,870 --> 01:14:43,360
focus source then i i consider it a

2111
01:14:46,470 --> 01:14:44,880
hindrance but i don't know that

2112
01:14:49,110 --> 01:14:46,480
ultimately i'd want to trade it away as

2113
01:14:51,110 --> 01:14:49,120
much as it has been a struggle it is a

2114
01:14:52,310 --> 01:14:51,120
part of me and it's who i am so i just i

2115
01:14:53,430 --> 01:14:52,320
don't know i really struggle with that

2116
01:14:55,189 --> 01:14:53,440
idea of like

2117
01:14:57,030 --> 01:14:55,199
the merging of with that with some sort

2118
01:14:58,149 --> 01:14:57,040
of ascension be it or excuse me that

2119
01:15:00,950 --> 01:14:58,159
sentient but

2120
01:15:02,790 --> 01:15:00,960
uh an ai process i guess

2121
01:15:04,390 --> 01:15:02,800
is that kind of what you were getting

2122
01:15:05,189 --> 01:15:04,400
from them that that's what's happened in

2123
01:15:06,709 --> 01:15:05,199
their

2124
01:15:08,470 --> 01:15:06,719
line or no

2125
01:15:10,790 --> 01:15:08,480
yes i understand what you're saying and

2126
01:15:12,310 --> 01:15:10,800
it definitely is a cause for concern

2127
01:15:14,550 --> 01:15:12,320
because god knows what the chinese are

2128
01:15:17,189 --> 01:15:14,560
doing they probably have a half a baby

2129
01:15:19,990 --> 01:15:17,199
half monkey already i mean you can't the

2130
01:15:23,110 --> 01:15:21,590
maybe not just the chinese but other

2131
01:15:25,350 --> 01:15:23,120
countries too i'm sure there's all kinds

2132
01:15:26,390 --> 01:15:25,360
of weird mutations and hybrids already

2133
01:15:27,750 --> 01:15:26,400
existing

2134
01:15:29,270 --> 01:15:27,760
uh on earth

2135
01:15:36,630 --> 01:15:29,280
um

2136
01:15:38,790 --> 01:15:36,640
as far as uh

2137
01:15:40,229 --> 01:15:38,800
you were talking about your focus and

2138
01:15:42,070 --> 01:15:40,239
that you were saying that you don't have

2139
01:15:45,590 --> 01:15:42,080
focus is that what you were saying well

2140
01:15:47,590 --> 01:15:45,600
i i i have thank you ben for joining

2141
01:15:49,189 --> 01:15:47,600
your very own youtube channel thank you

2142
01:15:51,510 --> 01:15:49,199
so much brother for supporting that and

2143
01:15:53,590 --> 01:15:51,520
becoming a

2144
01:15:55,189 --> 01:15:53,600
you member it what i was saying is yeah

2145
01:15:56,550 --> 01:15:55,199
i have oh my gosh what is the technical

2146
01:15:59,030 --> 01:15:56,560
term for guys somebody in the chat help

2147
01:16:00,709 --> 01:15:59,040
me out this is kind of an example of it

2148
01:16:01,750 --> 01:16:00,719
the um

2149
01:16:03,110 --> 01:16:01,760
like

2150
01:16:05,110 --> 01:16:03,120
is it attention deficit disorder

2151
01:16:07,669 --> 01:16:05,120
whatever it's called like i i just

2152
01:16:08,950 --> 01:16:07,679
i don't concentrate very well

2153
01:16:10,790 --> 01:16:08,960
when something doesn't grasp my

2154
01:16:12,390 --> 01:16:10,800
attention if i if it grabs my intention

2155
01:16:14,229 --> 01:16:12,400
then i'm enthralled right then i'm into

2156
01:16:15,030 --> 01:16:14,239
it i'm almost obsessed

2157
01:16:16,950 --> 01:16:15,040
but

2158
01:16:21,669 --> 01:16:16,960
that's normal why do we have to give

2159
01:16:23,750 --> 01:16:22,709
yeah

2160
01:16:26,149 --> 01:16:23,760
okay

2161
01:16:27,830 --> 01:16:26,159
oh by the way trivia excuse me if i did

2162
01:16:30,950 --> 01:16:27,840
miss a question let me scroll back here

2163
01:16:32,229 --> 01:16:30,960
i apologize guys let's see

2164
01:16:34,149 --> 01:16:32,239
yeah that was my fault for falling

2165
01:16:36,070 --> 01:16:34,159
behind on them over here looks like josh

2166
01:16:38,870 --> 01:16:36,080
had a question um i don't believe i've

2167
01:16:40,229 --> 01:16:38,880
mentioned this to you as i've tried to

2168
01:16:41,990 --> 01:16:40,239
avoid thinking about it i've had

2169
01:16:44,790 --> 01:16:42,000
reoccurring dreams with black-eyed

2170
01:16:47,430 --> 01:16:44,800
emotionless humans getting or getting

2171
01:16:49,669 --> 01:16:47,440
creeps texting at any opinions

2172
01:16:50,950 --> 01:16:49,679
yes um so what are your thoughts i guess

2173
01:16:52,390 --> 01:16:50,960
on that for anybody who might be

2174
01:16:54,390 --> 01:16:52,400
experiencing that

2175
01:16:57,350 --> 01:16:54,400
i have uh talked with several

2176
01:16:59,430 --> 01:16:57,360
experiencers who have met these beings

2177
01:17:00,550 --> 01:16:59,440
that are hybrid like that have big black

2178
01:17:01,430 --> 01:17:00,560
eyes

2179
01:17:04,870 --> 01:17:01,440
uh

2180
01:17:07,750 --> 01:17:04,880
now i've also spoke with people who said

2181
01:17:09,350 --> 01:17:07,760
that the big black eyes of grays

2182
01:17:11,350 --> 01:17:09,360
their eyes really aren't black that

2183
01:17:14,310 --> 01:17:11,360
that's a type of shield

2184
01:17:17,510 --> 01:17:14,320
uh so going back to these uh kind of

2185
01:17:20,310 --> 01:17:17,520
creepy hybrid like half human they tend

2186
01:17:21,590 --> 01:17:20,320
to be young like kids people say that i

2187
01:17:24,470 --> 01:17:21,600
saw like this

2188
01:17:27,350 --> 01:17:24,480
kid which is like all black eyes

2189
01:17:29,030 --> 01:17:27,360
so i'm not sure if they really are all

2190
01:17:31,910 --> 01:17:29,040
black or if they're also wearing that

2191
01:17:34,310 --> 01:17:31,920
shield that people claim that the grays

2192
01:17:35,830 --> 01:17:34,320
wear in order to

2193
01:17:38,630 --> 01:17:35,840
interact with us

2194
01:17:40,790 --> 01:17:38,640
but it is not uncommon for people to

2195
01:17:44,229 --> 01:17:40,800
meet these hybrid-like characters whose

2196
01:17:45,669 --> 01:17:44,239
eyes are all black

2197
01:17:47,990 --> 01:17:45,679
yeah i suppose that's true because i

2198
01:17:49,110 --> 01:17:48,000
believe even um

2199
01:17:51,189 --> 01:17:49,120
oh my gosh

2200
01:17:52,709 --> 01:17:51,199
thank you john so many blank questions

2201
01:17:54,149 --> 01:17:52,719
here tonight or my mind john i'm like

2202
01:17:55,910 --> 01:17:54,159
thank you yes josh for that amazing

2203
01:17:58,070 --> 01:17:55,920
question um

2204
01:17:59,910 --> 01:17:58,080
which was the question i wish anything

2205
01:18:01,590 --> 01:17:59,920
oh mr bledsoe when he had referred to

2206
01:18:03,830 --> 01:18:01,600
some of the um

2207
01:18:05,669 --> 01:18:03,840
excuse me let me go back i'm mixing up

2208
01:18:07,990 --> 01:18:05,679
my events here ron feldberg with the

2209
01:18:09,430 --> 01:18:08,000
mojave desert incident where they had

2210
01:18:10,950 --> 01:18:09,440
all these beings and crafts kind of

2211
01:18:12,709 --> 01:18:10,960
descend upon them and they talked about

2212
01:18:14,390 --> 01:18:12,719
all these little red eyes and they were

2213
01:18:15,110 --> 01:18:14,400
very excited little creatures that were

2214
01:18:16,630 --> 01:18:15,120
just

2215
01:18:18,550 --> 01:18:16,640
teaming about all over the place right

2216
01:18:20,790 --> 01:18:18,560
they said hundreds with their particular

2217
01:18:22,870 --> 01:18:20,800
encounter and then i had heard an

2218
01:18:24,550 --> 01:18:22,880
interview that um

2219
01:18:27,030 --> 01:18:24,560
chris bledsoe did

2220
01:18:28,310 --> 01:18:27,040
referring to saying that the red-eyed

2221
01:18:30,310 --> 01:18:28,320
children or some of the red when you see

2222
01:18:31,830 --> 01:18:30,320
that that they're they're essentially

2223
01:18:33,350 --> 01:18:31,840
kind of they're younger or children and

2224
01:18:34,709 --> 01:18:33,360
that they're in a protective suit now

2225
01:18:36,870 --> 01:18:34,719
whether there's truth to that i don't

2226
01:18:38,070 --> 01:18:36,880
know but i just in my head pictured i

2227
01:18:39,189 --> 01:18:38,080
thought how funny is it you know we put

2228
01:18:40,950 --> 01:18:39,199
our kids and they go on bikes and stuff

2229
01:18:42,470 --> 01:18:40,960
we put all this protective gear on them

2230
01:18:44,070 --> 01:18:42,480
so i was imagining like just these

2231
01:18:45,590 --> 01:18:44,080
rambunctious little

2232
01:18:46,709 --> 01:18:45,600
grays that on a new planet they're all

2233
01:18:47,910 --> 01:18:46,719
exciting they're like listen we gotta

2234
01:18:50,630 --> 01:18:47,920
suit these guys up in like little

2235
01:18:52,470 --> 01:18:50,640
projective gear so they don't uh hurt

2236
01:18:56,149 --> 01:18:52,480
themselves or somebody else

2237
01:18:58,630 --> 01:18:56,159
um so have you ever heard of that

2238
01:19:00,070 --> 01:18:58,640
interesting i know chris though he lives

2239
01:19:02,550 --> 01:19:00,080
just a couple hours only in north

2240
01:19:05,510 --> 01:19:02,560
carolina and i was introduced to him

2241
01:19:07,590 --> 01:19:05,520
through grant cameron who was okay yeah

2242
01:19:10,310 --> 01:19:07,600
great guy too grant

2243
01:19:11,990 --> 01:19:10,320
yeah he does great work in canada

2244
01:19:14,310 --> 01:19:12,000
and um

2245
01:19:17,990 --> 01:19:14,320
so i had an experience here

2246
01:19:20,950 --> 01:19:18,000
uh where i saw these small i actually

2247
01:19:23,110 --> 01:19:20,960
have a drawing of it um

2248
01:19:25,350 --> 01:19:23,120
i talk about this experience on my

2249
01:19:27,189 --> 01:19:25,360
youtube channel alien spirit tv i call

2250
01:19:30,390 --> 01:19:27,199
it the white dog encounter

2251
01:19:32,790 --> 01:19:30,400
and i saw this uh white being it's about

2252
01:19:34,709 --> 01:19:32,800
this tall kind of resembled casper the

2253
01:19:36,790 --> 01:19:34,719
ghost kind of the way it was shaped but

2254
01:19:39,270 --> 01:19:36,800
it was really white and illuminated like

2255
01:19:41,110 --> 01:19:39,280
a light bulb and he came into the room i

2256
01:19:43,110 --> 01:19:41,120
was sitting in this room i was not on

2257
01:19:45,350 --> 01:19:43,120
earth i was in another city somewhere

2258
01:19:47,669 --> 01:19:45,360
else i was sitting in this room and this

2259
01:19:51,189 --> 01:19:47,679
like illuminated being comes in with

2260
01:19:53,430 --> 01:19:51,199
this look like a dog it was on all fours

2261
01:19:55,030 --> 01:19:53,440
and so this dog gets on this table and

2262
01:19:56,709 --> 01:19:55,040
i'm looking at it really close up i'm

2263
01:19:59,030 --> 01:19:56,719
like why am i looking at this dog and

2264
01:20:01,590 --> 01:19:59,040
its skin was really really thin like i

2265
01:20:02,830 --> 01:20:01,600
could see the veins underneath it

2266
01:20:08,629 --> 01:20:02,840
so

2267
01:20:11,510 --> 01:20:08,639
okay well i did not know that chris

2268
01:20:13,669 --> 01:20:11,520
bledsoe had seen these and then after i

2269
01:20:17,510 --> 01:20:13,679
saw these beings they listened to

2270
01:20:19,910 --> 01:20:17,520
chris's account and he said that his son

2271
01:20:22,310 --> 01:20:19,920
saw these four-legged beings

2272
01:20:23,350 --> 01:20:22,320
uh and a four-legged being chased their

2273
01:20:25,590 --> 01:20:23,360
truck

2274
01:20:27,830 --> 01:20:25,600
and uh the way they described it it was

2275
01:20:30,149 --> 01:20:27,840
exactly like the four-legged being i saw

2276
01:20:32,390 --> 01:20:30,159
so we both saw that four-legged being we

2277
01:20:35,350 --> 01:20:32,400
saw that white being and we both saw

2278
01:20:38,550 --> 01:20:35,360
these blue um

2279
01:20:41,110 --> 01:20:38,560
more like light entities and uh i was

2280
01:20:43,990 --> 01:20:41,120
also given the information uh just like

2281
01:20:46,870 --> 01:20:44,000
you're saying just like chris got that

2282
01:20:48,870 --> 01:20:46,880
the four-legged ones

2283
01:20:52,950 --> 01:20:48,880
were like the juveniles

2284
01:20:55,830 --> 01:20:52,960
of the the blue entities and the small

2285
01:20:57,830 --> 01:20:55,840
white ones were like in between stage

2286
01:21:00,229 --> 01:20:57,840
and kind of like pupa or something but

2287
01:21:02,310 --> 01:21:00,239
they just transformed and as they were

2288
01:21:04,790 --> 01:21:02,320
maturing they took on different body

2289
01:21:06,390 --> 01:21:04,800
types and so it could very well be

2290
01:21:07,189 --> 01:21:06,400
exactly what you said

2291
01:21:09,430 --> 01:21:07,199
well

2292
01:21:11,750 --> 01:21:09,440
uh that it could be like a covering to

2293
01:21:14,070 --> 01:21:11,760
keep that light in because that that

2294
01:21:16,950 --> 01:21:14,080
four legged thing that looked like a dog

2295
01:21:19,910 --> 01:21:16,960
its skin or whatever it was over it was

2296
01:21:22,470 --> 01:21:19,920
so see-through and just so transparent

2297
01:21:24,950 --> 01:21:22,480
and so thin so it could very well be

2298
01:21:26,310 --> 01:21:24,960
yeah so you know those uh those

2299
01:21:28,310 --> 01:21:26,320
different types of stories from

2300
01:21:29,990 --> 01:21:28,320
different types of people just put in

2301
01:21:32,390 --> 01:21:30,000
all the missing pieces and they're all

2302
01:21:34,709 --> 01:21:32,400
validation which is really nice

2303
01:21:35,990 --> 01:21:34,719
yeah as if you know i mean

2304
01:21:38,390 --> 01:21:36,000
i think

2305
01:21:40,390 --> 01:21:38,400
what's that i apologize

2306
01:21:42,790 --> 01:21:40,400
no i was just responding to you followed

2307
01:21:44,310 --> 01:21:42,800
us oh yeah yeah she has my undivided

2308
01:21:46,790 --> 01:21:44,320
attention that is a good thing guys we

2309
01:21:48,310 --> 01:21:46,800
that is the goal right um

2310
01:21:50,390 --> 01:21:48,320
that is you know i think everything is a

2311
01:21:52,709 --> 01:21:50,400
tool so in regards to the internet you

2312
01:21:53,990 --> 01:21:52,719
know the pros and cons of it um

2313
01:21:55,590 --> 01:21:54,000
you know this is one of the beautiful

2314
01:21:58,070 --> 01:21:55,600
things about it is that

2315
01:22:01,030 --> 01:21:58,080
those that have opened up and shared

2316
01:22:02,790 --> 01:22:01,040
are there's been a massive wave i think

2317
01:22:04,310 --> 01:22:02,800
um there's a gentleman we hang out with

2318
01:22:05,910 --> 01:22:04,320
quite a bit named spooky morales and he

2319
01:22:07,350 --> 01:22:05,920
was talking about the idea of

2320
01:22:08,470 --> 01:22:07,360
obviously over the past five to six

2321
01:22:10,149 --> 01:22:08,480
years we've had a lot of people just

2322
01:22:11,189 --> 01:22:10,159
start talking about the the phenomenon

2323
01:22:13,990 --> 01:22:11,199
as a whole taking it a lot more

2324
01:22:15,990 --> 01:22:14,000
seriously but take consciousness you

2325
01:22:17,510 --> 01:22:16,000
know two years ago nobody hardly was

2326
01:22:19,750 --> 01:22:17,520
talking about that there were there were

2327
01:22:21,830 --> 01:22:19,760
those but not not the masses weren't

2328
01:22:26,390 --> 01:22:21,840
really considering consciousness aspect

2329
01:22:29,590 --> 01:22:26,400
of it myself included um and and it's so

2330
01:22:31,910 --> 01:22:29,600
pleasant to see a massive shift in that

2331
01:22:33,350 --> 01:22:31,920
regard because i do think that there's a

2332
01:22:34,950 --> 01:22:33,360
lot of this is

2333
01:22:36,870 --> 01:22:34,960
um

2334
01:22:39,189 --> 01:22:36,880
i do think parts of it are tangible but

2335
01:22:41,110 --> 01:22:39,199
i think that us having that like

2336
01:22:43,110 --> 01:22:41,120
absolute answer

2337
01:22:44,950 --> 01:22:43,120
maybe to some it'll come but for me i'm

2338
01:22:47,189 --> 01:22:44,960
completely okay with if it doesn't i'm

2339
01:22:49,110 --> 01:22:47,199
enjoying the journey right and wherever

2340
01:22:50,310 --> 01:22:49,120
it takes us but i don't know how you how

2341
01:22:52,229 --> 01:22:50,320
you feel about this but i feel that a

2342
01:22:53,510 --> 01:22:52,239
lot of people we hang out like in the

2343
01:22:55,430 --> 01:22:53,520
groups and stuff afterwards after hours

2344
01:22:57,350 --> 01:22:55,440
we're not even on shows just talking

2345
01:22:58,070 --> 01:22:57,360
feel there's a wave of something coming

2346
01:22:59,590 --> 01:22:58,080
right

2347
01:23:02,229 --> 01:22:59,600
don't know what it is

2348
01:23:04,310 --> 01:23:02,239
but things are shifting and changing and

2349
01:23:06,070 --> 01:23:04,320
and correct me if i'm wrong and i'd love

2350
01:23:08,870 --> 01:23:06,080
to get your input on this does it feel

2351
01:23:11,510 --> 01:23:08,880
like something is is still fighting this

2352
01:23:13,590 --> 01:23:11,520
and in fighting it i would like to point

2353
01:23:15,669 --> 01:23:13,600
out that i don't think it's just the us

2354
01:23:17,830 --> 01:23:15,679
government is part of this but is there

2355
01:23:19,669 --> 01:23:17,840
something else that's present preventing

2356
01:23:21,910 --> 01:23:19,679
this

2357
01:23:25,510 --> 01:23:21,920
outside of worldly huma outside of

2358
01:23:28,950 --> 01:23:27,590
uh okay so going back to what i was

2359
01:23:31,350 --> 01:23:28,960
talking about

2360
01:23:33,430 --> 01:23:31,360
everybody everything has a vibration and

2361
01:23:34,709 --> 01:23:33,440
so otherworldly beings have a vibration

2362
01:23:36,229 --> 01:23:34,719
and there are some beings that have a

2363
01:23:37,669 --> 01:23:36,239
lower frequency

2364
01:23:39,669 --> 01:23:37,679
and so

2365
01:23:40,550 --> 01:23:39,679
you know they also have their agendas

2366
01:23:43,030 --> 01:23:40,560
too

2367
01:23:44,950 --> 01:23:43,040
and uh this lower frequency when we come

2368
01:23:48,149 --> 01:23:44,960
in contact with them is so uncomfortable

2369
01:23:50,629 --> 01:23:48,159
that we label them as mean or evil or

2370
01:23:52,470 --> 01:23:50,639
bad and that's not necessarily the case

2371
01:23:54,470 --> 01:23:52,480
it's just that that's what we label

2372
01:23:56,790 --> 01:23:54,480
something that makes us uncomfortable

2373
01:23:58,790 --> 01:23:56,800
because it's such a different frequency

2374
01:24:00,629 --> 01:23:58,800
or a different vibration and i've

2375
01:24:01,830 --> 01:24:00,639
actually come in contact with an astral

2376
01:24:05,110 --> 01:24:01,840
men in black

2377
01:24:07,030 --> 01:24:05,120
which uh was a scary experience uh that

2378
01:24:09,430 --> 01:24:07,040
was really intense

2379
01:24:11,590 --> 01:24:09,440
uh and uh it was like an energetic

2380
01:24:13,990 --> 01:24:11,600
battle because i could feel it i could

2381
01:24:15,350 --> 01:24:14,000
feel it it was just a foot for my bed in

2382
01:24:17,990 --> 01:24:15,360
the middle of the night i woke up and

2383
01:24:18,950 --> 01:24:18,000
there was this tall black being with a

2384
01:24:21,110 --> 01:24:18,960
hat

2385
01:24:24,070 --> 01:24:21,120
and he was attached to a friend of mine

2386
01:24:29,590 --> 01:24:26,870
and when i opened my eyes and i saw it

2387
01:24:31,430 --> 01:24:29,600
instantly i felt its energy to start to

2388
01:24:33,430 --> 01:24:31,440
come inside of me and like it felt like

2389
01:24:34,390 --> 01:24:33,440
it just wanted to come inside of me and

2390
01:24:35,270 --> 01:24:34,400
grab

2391
01:24:40,870 --> 01:24:35,280
me

2392
01:24:42,950 --> 01:24:40,880
and so i said no i'm like nope

2393
01:24:44,629 --> 01:24:42,960
this isn't gonna happen you have to go

2394
01:24:46,709 --> 01:24:44,639
and it put up a fight there was an

2395
01:24:48,950 --> 01:24:46,719
energetic battle but i won because i

2396
01:24:51,030 --> 01:24:48,960
know i'm in control and after that

2397
01:24:52,470 --> 01:24:51,040
experience i realized

2398
01:24:54,229 --> 01:24:52,480
a lot of people don't know that they're

2399
01:24:55,110 --> 01:24:54,239
in control and the energy from that

2400
01:24:57,510 --> 01:24:55,120
being

2401
01:24:58,550 --> 01:24:57,520
was really

2402
01:25:01,430 --> 01:24:58,560
dense

2403
01:25:03,430 --> 01:25:01,440
and it was almost overwhelming so for a

2404
01:25:05,030 --> 01:25:03,440
lot of people who come in contact with

2405
01:25:07,030 --> 01:25:05,040
beings like that

2406
01:25:10,310 --> 01:25:07,040
you can fight it and if they know that

2407
01:25:11,990 --> 01:25:10,320
you absolutely are serious that you want

2408
01:25:13,590 --> 01:25:12,000
nothing to do with that being they will

2409
01:25:15,110 --> 01:25:13,600
leave you alone but if there's a little

2410
01:25:18,070 --> 01:25:15,120
bit of you that's like oh this is kind

2411
01:25:20,550 --> 01:25:18,080
of cool well they hang out so

2412
01:25:21,910 --> 01:25:20,560
you have to be very very persistent in

2413
01:25:23,590 --> 01:25:21,920
saying

2414
01:25:25,990 --> 01:25:23,600
i don't have fear because what that

2415
01:25:28,310 --> 01:25:26,000
being lived off of was fear and it was

2416
01:25:29,750 --> 01:25:28,320
attached to my my girlfriend who was in

2417
01:25:30,709 --> 01:25:29,760
a state of fear at that particular

2418
01:25:33,030 --> 01:25:30,719
moment

2419
01:25:35,110 --> 01:25:33,040
and uh i just said you know i don't have

2420
01:25:36,629 --> 01:25:35,120
food for you i don't have what nourishes

2421
01:25:39,990 --> 01:25:36,639
you

2422
01:25:44,709 --> 01:25:42,229
of someone else's fear i don't have it

2423
01:25:47,270 --> 01:25:44,719
exactly i love that enzo he he

2424
01:25:48,870 --> 01:25:47,280
thoroughly believes in you he says

2425
01:25:51,270 --> 01:25:48,880
he says he have no problem kicking

2426
01:25:52,790 --> 01:25:51,280
anybody's butt who it would need so

2427
01:25:54,070 --> 01:25:52,800
but you do bring up a good point about

2428
01:25:55,189 --> 01:25:54,080
that because i know we've had those in

2429
01:25:56,229 --> 01:25:55,199
the past that have said that no one

2430
01:25:59,510 --> 01:25:56,239
wants to talk about the fact that if

2431
01:26:01,110 --> 01:25:59,520
somebody mentions you know like maybe

2432
01:26:03,189 --> 01:26:01,120
like jesus's name or whatever you

2433
01:26:04,629 --> 01:26:03,199
believe in whoever your deity is but

2434
01:26:05,669 --> 01:26:04,639
it's it's that idea that you're calling

2435
01:26:08,149 --> 01:26:05,679
us some sort of a faith you're

2436
01:26:11,030 --> 01:26:08,159
establishing yourself to say no no i

2437
01:26:12,950 --> 01:26:11,040
have power in this situation yeah again

2438
01:26:14,870 --> 01:26:12,960
i i don't get hung up necessarily on one

2439
01:26:16,550 --> 01:26:14,880
person's you know god that they worship

2440
01:26:18,070 --> 01:26:16,560
one way or the other but

2441
01:26:19,669 --> 01:26:18,080
we don't they don't always address that

2442
01:26:21,189 --> 01:26:19,679
topic and ufology sometimes it's like

2443
01:26:22,709 --> 01:26:21,199
well it does happen

2444
01:26:25,189 --> 01:26:22,719
where people and that's why they get

2445
01:26:26,550 --> 01:26:25,199
structured to be in a a demonic

2446
01:26:28,149 --> 01:26:26,560
experience generally right then they

2447
01:26:29,510 --> 01:26:28,159
roll it over to that of immediately

2448
01:26:30,950 --> 01:26:29,520
they're like well it was a demonic force

2449
01:26:33,750 --> 01:26:30,960
because they called in the name of you

2450
01:26:35,350 --> 01:26:33,760
know whoever and and it stopped it

2451
01:26:37,270 --> 01:26:35,360
um but you're saying it's not so much

2452
01:26:39,910 --> 01:26:37,280
it's just establishing that you have

2453
01:26:42,149 --> 01:26:39,920
control of your of your situation

2454
01:26:44,310 --> 01:26:42,159
and you're not open to something right

2455
01:26:45,910 --> 01:26:44,320
so i think that that is key i've never

2456
01:26:48,629 --> 01:26:45,920
really thought of it that way

2457
01:26:50,229 --> 01:26:48,639
also the higher the the more you work at

2458
01:26:51,830 --> 01:26:50,239
raising your frequency the more you're

2459
01:26:53,830 --> 01:26:51,840
going to be aligned with high frequency

2460
01:26:55,590 --> 01:26:53,840
beams but every now and then even if

2461
01:26:58,550 --> 01:26:55,600
your frequency is high you could still

2462
01:27:00,070 --> 01:26:58,560
be poked with a lower frequency being

2463
01:27:01,990 --> 01:27:00,080
because you know when we go visit people

2464
01:27:04,229 --> 01:27:02,000
and when we're walking around and living

2465
01:27:05,910 --> 01:27:04,239
we take our people we take our entities

2466
01:27:08,790 --> 01:27:05,920
with us so when my girlfriend came to

2467
01:27:11,750 --> 01:27:08,800
stay with me this was her entity

2468
01:27:13,669 --> 01:27:11,760
and uh i didn't realize it at the time

2469
01:27:15,430 --> 01:27:13,679
afterwards i realized that that entity

2470
01:27:17,110 --> 01:27:15,440
was attached to her and so it was just

2471
01:27:18,550 --> 01:27:17,120
poking around it just happened to be

2472
01:27:20,070 --> 01:27:18,560
there

2473
01:27:21,910 --> 01:27:20,080
but this is the beauty of raising your

2474
01:27:25,189 --> 01:27:21,920
frequency and on my youtube channel

2475
01:27:27,030 --> 01:27:25,199
alien spirit tv i offer free videos

2476
01:27:30,870 --> 01:27:27,040
about how to raise your frequency why

2477
01:27:33,270 --> 01:27:30,880
you would want to and i also offer a

2478
01:27:35,669 --> 01:27:33,280
guided meditations that i've created to

2479
01:27:37,510 --> 01:27:35,679
help you raise your frequency so you can

2480
01:27:41,590 --> 01:27:37,520
connect with other worldly beings in a

2481
01:27:43,270 --> 01:27:41,600
very safe manner i love that

2482
01:27:44,870 --> 01:27:43,280
you know i think a lot of people i love

2483
01:27:46,870 --> 01:27:44,880
that that's becoming something that's

2484
01:27:48,550 --> 01:27:46,880
much more talked about these days that

2485
01:27:51,110 --> 01:27:48,560
it is an option if it's done safely it's

2486
01:27:52,950 --> 01:27:51,120
just helping educate people on what they

2487
01:27:54,310 --> 01:27:52,960
um how to do it in a safe way that's

2488
01:27:55,750 --> 01:27:54,320
going to be good for them health wise

2489
01:27:57,910 --> 01:27:55,760
you know mentally too

2490
01:28:00,950 --> 01:27:57,920
um kathy slash thank you for being here

2491
01:28:02,629 --> 01:28:00,960
tonight uh and you know

2492
01:28:04,070 --> 01:28:02,639
i guess well i didn't even realize time

2493
01:28:06,070 --> 01:28:04,080
was flowing right by for us so i

2494
01:28:08,709 --> 01:28:06,080
apologize first of all for that every

2495
01:28:10,629 --> 01:28:08,719
time we get we get going along

2496
01:28:11,590 --> 01:28:10,639
i always lose track of the time not hard

2497
01:28:14,070 --> 01:28:11,600
to do

2498
01:28:15,990 --> 01:28:14,080
um so with us having just a couple i'll

2499
01:28:17,830 --> 01:28:16,000
go ahead yeah go ahead no it just went

2500
01:28:19,189 --> 01:28:17,840
by quick because i i just gonna set the

2501
01:28:21,510 --> 01:28:19,199
time too and i can't believe it's been

2502
01:28:22,629 --> 01:28:21,520
an hour and a half i sure can uh tammy

2503
01:28:24,870 --> 01:28:22,639
wants to know if i can post your link

2504
01:28:25,910 --> 01:28:24,880
guys by the way all links uh for

2505
01:28:27,590 --> 01:28:25,920
anything she has mentioned if you go

2506
01:28:29,270 --> 01:28:27,600
down in the show notes i've got them

2507
01:28:31,189 --> 01:28:29,280
broke down each individually so if you

2508
01:28:32,229 --> 01:28:31,199
want to go yeah if you want to go submit

2509
01:28:33,510 --> 01:28:32,239
anything that she's mentioned

2510
01:28:35,270 --> 01:28:33,520
individually on there they're all broken

2511
01:28:37,830 --> 01:28:35,280
down individually with their own links

2512
01:28:40,790 --> 01:28:37,840
so please feel free to go check that out

2513
01:28:42,870 --> 01:28:40,800
kathy smash namaste to you too as well

2514
01:28:44,870 --> 01:28:42,880
and thank you for being here tonight

2515
01:28:46,550 --> 01:28:44,880
so really quick then with us just having

2516
01:28:48,229 --> 01:28:46,560
a couple minutes left here

2517
01:28:50,070 --> 01:28:48,239
what are some key things some key

2518
01:28:51,750 --> 01:28:50,080
takeaways you would encourage for other

2519
01:28:53,510 --> 01:28:51,760
people um

2520
01:28:54,870 --> 01:28:53,520
who are maybe having an experience or

2521
01:28:56,629 --> 01:28:54,880
think they've had an experience at this

2522
01:28:58,550 --> 01:28:56,639
point what what is the starting point

2523
01:28:59,750 --> 01:28:58,560
for them at this you know to start out i

2524
01:29:01,590 --> 01:28:59,760
guess at this very moment what is

2525
01:29:03,590 --> 01:29:01,600
something they can do in this moment if

2526
01:29:04,550 --> 01:29:03,600
they're listening

2527
01:29:06,950 --> 01:29:04,560
okay

2528
01:29:08,870 --> 01:29:06,960
just stop hiding it

2529
01:29:11,350 --> 01:29:08,880
uh come out to yourself admit it to

2530
01:29:14,790 --> 01:29:11,360
yourself or contact me and come out to

2531
01:29:18,629 --> 01:29:14,800
me find somebody go online find a group

2532
01:29:20,550 --> 01:29:18,639
but just just tell somebody and if it

2533
01:29:22,310 --> 01:29:20,560
can just be yourself that's the most

2534
01:29:24,550 --> 01:29:22,320
important thing just to get it out there

2535
01:29:26,629 --> 01:29:24,560
so you can start processing it so you

2536
01:29:29,430 --> 01:29:26,639
don't start hiding it most important

2537
01:29:33,110 --> 01:29:29,440
thing really for you to find fulfillment

2538
01:29:35,189 --> 01:29:33,120
success and peace is to live as the real

2539
01:29:37,270 --> 01:29:35,199
you to live giving yourself the

2540
01:29:39,030 --> 01:29:37,280
permission to live authentically and

2541
01:29:40,950 --> 01:29:39,040
that's not going to happen if you have a

2542
01:29:42,149 --> 01:29:40,960
big secret

2543
01:29:45,110 --> 01:29:42,159
yeah

2544
01:29:46,790 --> 01:29:45,120
we think about that too like on a

2545
01:29:48,870 --> 01:29:46,800
molecular level what that does to you

2546
01:29:50,790 --> 01:29:48,880
know you as a being is this vibrating

2547
01:29:52,870 --> 01:29:50,800
literally vibrating being if you're

2548
01:29:53,990 --> 01:29:52,880
killing cells or whatever pressure the

2549
01:29:57,110 --> 01:29:54,000
weight of

2550
01:29:59,430 --> 01:29:57,120
suppressing yourself to yourself

2551
01:30:00,709 --> 01:29:59,440
um that's got to be devastating and i i

2552
01:30:02,229 --> 01:30:00,719
know we all do it because like you said

2553
01:30:04,229 --> 01:30:02,239
so much easier said than done so i know

2554
01:30:05,590 --> 01:30:04,239
we're all i'm guilty of this there are

2555
01:30:07,030 --> 01:30:05,600
parts of myself that i'm still trying to

2556
01:30:09,830 --> 01:30:07,040
live true to

2557
01:30:12,149 --> 01:30:09,840
and it's it's not easy right like you

2558
01:30:14,310 --> 01:30:12,159
said it's so much easier said than done

2559
01:30:15,990 --> 01:30:14,320
and then actually living that out is is

2560
01:30:18,950 --> 01:30:16,000
a whole nother thing

2561
01:30:21,510 --> 01:30:18,960
in just general without adding in like

2562
01:30:22,870 --> 01:30:21,520
you know the other uh

2563
01:30:25,590 --> 01:30:22,880
interactions you might be having with

2564
01:30:27,270 --> 01:30:25,600
maybe multi-dimensional uh beings or

2565
01:30:28,950 --> 01:30:27,280
those that have passed on that's a whole

2566
01:30:30,550 --> 01:30:28,960
nother level then right

2567
01:30:32,229 --> 01:30:30,560
but that is something i'm very excited

2568
01:30:33,189 --> 01:30:32,239
that yourself that you're doing and

2569
01:30:35,030 --> 01:30:33,199
there's many others that are doing

2570
01:30:35,830 --> 01:30:35,040
incredible work this way too

2571
01:30:37,510 --> 01:30:35,840
um

2572
01:30:39,430 --> 01:30:37,520
really quickly too let's let's hit on

2573
01:30:40,950 --> 01:30:39,440
this really quick which is and guys if

2574
01:30:42,550 --> 01:30:40,960
you have any last minute questions for

2575
01:30:43,669 --> 01:30:42,560
uh sev here please put them up because

2576
01:30:45,110 --> 01:30:43,679
you only have about five more minutes

2577
01:30:46,790 --> 01:30:45,120
with her for i'm gonna let her get out

2578
01:30:48,950 --> 01:30:46,800
of this evening hanging out with us

2579
01:30:50,629 --> 01:30:48,960
which is you do have uh the symposium

2580
01:30:52,229 --> 01:30:50,639
that's coming up in uh july i believe

2581
01:30:54,470 --> 01:30:52,239
the 2022 right

2582
01:30:57,430 --> 01:30:54,480
yes

2583
01:30:59,350 --> 01:30:57,440
national international symposium i'm so

2584
01:31:02,709 --> 01:30:59,360
honored that i'm going to be the master

2585
01:31:03,669 --> 01:31:02,719
of ceremonies i'm very excited about it

2586
01:31:05,189 --> 01:31:03,679
yeah

2587
01:31:07,110 --> 01:31:05,199
there was something i wanted to say i'm

2588
01:31:08,950 --> 01:31:07,120
sorry to kind of you know go ahead

2589
01:31:11,510 --> 01:31:08,960
you were talking about consciousness and

2590
01:31:14,470 --> 01:31:11,520
i just wanted to say that as a mufon

2591
01:31:16,629 --> 01:31:14,480
investigator uh we can see the shift

2592
01:31:20,070 --> 01:31:16,639
mufon investigators see the shift for

2593
01:31:22,070 --> 01:31:20,080
more of uh 3d experienced more of an

2594
01:31:24,070 --> 01:31:22,080
experience through the consciousness

2595
01:31:25,510 --> 01:31:24,080
because your mind is just the playground

2596
01:31:27,430 --> 01:31:25,520
of the consciousness

2597
01:31:29,270 --> 01:31:27,440
and so this is a big shift that's

2598
01:31:31,830 --> 01:31:29,280
happening even with the reporting that

2599
01:31:33,189 --> 01:31:31,840
we're getting at mufon

2600
01:31:34,709 --> 01:31:33,199
i love that

2601
01:31:36,070 --> 01:31:34,719
that's that's very intriguing because

2602
01:31:37,590 --> 01:31:36,080
you guys get to see a whole another part

2603
01:31:39,270 --> 01:31:37,600
of this that we don't even that we don't

2604
01:31:40,550 --> 01:31:39,280
get to see at all you know which is very

2605
01:31:44,070 --> 01:31:40,560
exciting

2606
01:31:46,149 --> 01:31:44,080
um yeah if i'm not mistaken i i think

2607
01:31:47,910 --> 01:31:46,159
lynn wallington and dave scott might be

2608
01:31:49,189 --> 01:31:47,920
at the same one as you i could be wrong

2609
01:31:51,350 --> 01:31:49,199
in that though i could be wrong guys so

2610
01:31:52,310 --> 01:31:51,360
if i'm speaking please forgive me i

2611
01:31:53,669 --> 01:31:52,320
don't know if they're they're for sure

2612
01:31:54,870 --> 01:31:53,679
that one or not but i know they've got a

2613
01:31:56,830 --> 01:31:54,880
couple events coming on the show which

2614
01:31:58,390 --> 01:31:56,840
i'm glad i'm hoping some of the

2615
01:32:00,390 --> 01:31:58,400
events

2616
01:32:02,070 --> 01:32:00,400
he is going to be that one okay then if

2617
01:32:03,750 --> 01:32:02,080
he is i'm pretty sure that lynn's gonna

2618
01:32:05,510 --> 01:32:03,760
i think she got added just recently here

2619
01:32:07,669 --> 01:32:05,520
so it's gonna be a good time you guys

2620
01:32:10,070 --> 01:32:07,679
again and obviously you guys uh cash you

2621
01:32:11,590 --> 01:32:10,080
know dave scott spaced out radio uh i

2622
01:32:12,870 --> 01:32:11,600
believe sev you said you're gonna be on

2623
01:32:14,470 --> 01:32:12,880
like a month with them right give or

2624
01:32:17,350 --> 01:32:14,480
take i'm gonna be on i believe on the

2625
01:32:19,030 --> 01:32:17,360
22nd of february 22nd of february so you

2626
01:32:20,470 --> 01:32:19,040
put it in your calendar somewhere in

2627
01:32:21,510 --> 01:32:20,480
there right and you guys obviously can

2628
01:32:23,590 --> 01:32:21,520
catch me tomorrow night with the

2629
01:32:24,950 --> 01:32:23,600
after-hours show with myself uh jimmy

2630
01:32:27,270 --> 01:32:24,960
jade's got this weekend off but we got

2631
01:32:28,870 --> 01:32:27,280
john hudson and then lizzie borden is

2632
01:32:29,990 --> 01:32:28,880
coming on to hang out and is going to be

2633
01:32:31,990 --> 01:32:30,000
a part of the team now over there so

2634
01:32:33,669 --> 01:32:32,000
that's going to be exciting good times

2635
01:32:35,750 --> 01:32:33,679
and i'm just seeing if i have any

2636
01:32:37,990 --> 01:32:35,760
questions in here i thought i'd seen one

2637
01:32:40,149 --> 01:32:38,000
uh josh just wanted to say i owe sev and

2638
01:32:42,709 --> 01:32:40,159
chris bledsoe a ton of gratitude thank

2639
01:32:44,229 --> 01:32:42,719
you sev i gotta go get i gotta go

2640
01:32:45,830 --> 01:32:44,239
congratulations good night everyone

2641
01:32:47,669 --> 01:32:45,840
later big willy you get some sleep

2642
01:32:48,629 --> 01:32:47,679
tonight josh make sure you rest up

2643
01:32:51,510 --> 01:32:48,639
hopefully you're able to get some good

2644
01:32:54,149 --> 01:32:51,520
stuff tonight i'm sorry okay josh is a

2645
01:32:56,950 --> 01:32:54,159
fantastic story because i was introduced

2646
01:32:58,870 --> 01:32:56,960
to josh through mufon only in september

2647
01:33:01,030 --> 01:32:58,880
and in just a few short months he's had

2648
01:33:03,750 --> 01:33:01,040
this spiritual blossoming that's just

2649
01:33:06,390 --> 01:33:03,760
outstanding and now he has his own

2650
01:33:08,550 --> 01:33:06,400
uh podcast it happens very quickly and

2651
01:33:10,950 --> 01:33:08,560
this is this what he's a perfect example

2652
01:33:13,830 --> 01:33:10,960
of the spiritual blossoming that happens

2653
01:33:16,950 --> 01:33:13,840
to uh people who come in contact

2654
01:33:18,390 --> 01:33:16,960
i do i i he's a great guy and he's like

2655
01:33:20,790 --> 01:33:18,400
i said uh

2656
01:33:23,750 --> 01:33:20,800
there's a difference when people

2657
01:33:26,229 --> 01:33:23,760
share the experiences they think that

2658
01:33:27,669 --> 01:33:26,239
maybe they've reap oh

2659
01:33:29,830 --> 01:33:27,679
not everybody does this but some people

2660
01:33:30,870 --> 01:33:29,840
re embellish or rehearse some of the

2661
01:33:32,470 --> 01:33:30,880
stuff and then

2662
01:33:34,870 --> 01:33:32,480
i don't think when someone's

2663
01:33:36,390 --> 01:33:34,880
i enjoy when somebody shares a story and

2664
01:33:38,470 --> 01:33:36,400
it's maybe not polished and clean and

2665
01:33:39,830 --> 01:33:38,480
just perfect because it's raw and it's

2666
01:33:41,030 --> 01:33:39,840
real and that's a lot of what joe and

2667
01:33:42,229 --> 01:33:41,040
ben have done here is just allowed

2668
01:33:43,430 --> 01:33:42,239
people to come on and share those

2669
01:33:45,510 --> 01:33:43,440
experiences

2670
01:33:47,750 --> 01:33:45,520
and sometimes it's people's first times

2671
01:33:53,270 --> 01:33:47,760
ever sharing it with anybody

2672
01:33:57,350 --> 01:33:55,750
a lot with them they've got a great gift

2673
01:34:00,070 --> 01:33:57,360
that uh they've done a lot that way for

2674
01:34:01,590 --> 01:34:00,080
people to just share

2675
01:34:02,790 --> 01:34:01,600
and you can tell you know sometimes they

2676
01:34:04,870 --> 01:34:02,800
don't know how the greatest mics or

2677
01:34:06,229 --> 01:34:04,880
whatever it might be but those stories

2678
01:34:07,510 --> 01:34:06,239
are genuine and they're real and there's

2679
01:34:09,270 --> 01:34:07,520
someone else there more than likely

2680
01:34:11,510 --> 01:34:09,280
who's hearing that that's had that same

2681
01:34:13,750 --> 01:34:11,520
experience and for them

2682
01:34:15,510 --> 01:34:13,760
man that's got you know how

2683
01:34:17,430 --> 01:34:15,520
how much of at least it has to be to

2684
01:34:18,709 --> 01:34:17,440
somebody to be able to hear someone else

2685
01:34:20,470 --> 01:34:18,719
who's had you're like oh my gosh i

2686
01:34:22,950 --> 01:34:20,480
thought i was crazy and to hear that

2687
01:34:25,350 --> 01:34:22,960
someone else has had this so yeah uh

2688
01:34:27,110 --> 01:34:25,360
oh there see there's ben in the chat ben

2689
01:34:28,550 --> 01:34:27,120
thank you for allowing this the reason

2690
01:34:30,149 --> 01:34:28,560
you and i are even here tonight sev is

2691
01:34:32,709 --> 01:34:30,159
because joe and ben got together and

2692
01:34:34,310 --> 01:34:32,719
said dude let's go do a podcast and and

2693
01:34:36,149 --> 01:34:34,320
they they own it

2694
01:34:38,950 --> 01:34:36,159
so it's been a great time

2695
01:34:40,470 --> 01:34:38,960
um so guys once again all the show notes

2696
01:34:42,310 --> 01:34:40,480
are links everything is it are in the

2697
01:34:43,990 --> 01:34:42,320
show notes and you'll be able to catch

2698
01:34:46,790 --> 01:34:44,000
her on space out radio with mr dave

2699
01:34:48,629 --> 01:34:46,800
scott uh the 22nd give or take someone

2700
01:34:49,830 --> 01:34:48,639
there of february somewhere in that

2701
01:34:51,510 --> 01:34:49,840
range

2702
01:34:54,390 --> 01:34:51,520
and uh you'll also be able to catch her

2703
01:34:57,109 --> 01:34:54,400
and if you can make it out in 2022 there

2704
01:34:58,629 --> 01:34:57,119
or 22 we are in 2022 oh my gosh how did

2705
01:35:00,870 --> 01:34:58,639
i just realize guys i just forgot a

2706
01:35:03,430 --> 01:35:00,880
whole year was here already my goodness

2707
01:35:04,709 --> 01:35:03,440
way to start the year you're up there

2708
01:35:06,390 --> 01:35:04,719
already so

2709
01:35:07,590 --> 01:35:06,400
uh sev anything you'd like to say in

2710
01:35:09,590 --> 01:35:07,600
closing though any words you'd like to

2711
01:35:11,030 --> 01:35:09,600
send people off with uh before i get you

2712
01:35:12,149 --> 01:35:11,040
out of here this fine evening and and

2713
01:35:13,350 --> 01:35:12,159
let you enjoy what's left of your

2714
01:35:14,950 --> 01:35:13,360
weekend here

2715
01:35:18,629 --> 01:35:14,960
oh well thank you

2716
01:35:19,910 --> 01:35:18,639
uh this is really fun i love interacting

2717
01:35:22,070 --> 01:35:19,920
with uh

2718
01:35:24,629 --> 01:35:22,080
listeners and viewers live

2719
01:35:28,070 --> 01:35:24,639
uh so i'm really grateful for this

2720
01:35:29,109 --> 01:35:28,080
platform that you've created it's very

2721
01:35:32,070 --> 01:35:29,119
important

2722
01:35:35,669 --> 01:35:32,080
and i'm honored to be your guest

2723
01:35:36,470 --> 01:35:35,679
and thank you everyone who

2724
01:35:42,470 --> 01:35:36,480
who

2725
01:35:44,070 --> 01:35:42,480
supporting will and also just supporting

2726
01:35:47,030 --> 01:35:44,080
this movement of

2727
01:35:50,070 --> 01:35:47,040
basically it's just um

2728
01:35:51,590 --> 01:35:50,080
an awareness uh expansion that's all

2729
01:35:54,070 --> 01:35:51,600
that's happening we're just expanding

2730
01:35:55,830 --> 01:35:54,080
our awareness love it

2731
01:35:57,830 --> 01:35:55,840
i do love that i could think of no

2732
01:36:00,149 --> 01:35:57,840
better words than to really end it out

2733
01:36:01,590 --> 01:36:00,159
in that so guys as i always say seven

2734
01:36:02,950 --> 01:36:01,600
i'm sending everybody off thank you for

2735
01:36:04,709 --> 01:36:02,960
being our guest this evening thank you

2736
01:36:06,149 --> 01:36:04,719
for sharing i know we had so much more

2737
01:36:07,270 --> 01:36:06,159
we could have gotten to guys there's so

2738
01:36:09,910 --> 01:36:07,280
many other places you can catch your

2739
01:36:11,510 --> 01:36:09,920
interviews on from coast to coast uh to

2740
01:36:12,709 --> 01:36:11,520
raising your experiences there's there's

2741
01:36:14,390 --> 01:36:12,719
a ton of them and you go on our website

2742
01:36:15,669 --> 01:36:14,400
they're listed on there so if you want

2743
01:36:17,350 --> 01:36:15,679
to get a little more in depth on some of

2744
01:36:19,270 --> 01:36:17,360
her life experiences please go check

2745
01:36:20,790 --> 01:36:19,280
that out and as i always say as we're

2746
01:36:25,350 --> 01:36:20,800
heading out for the evening

2747
01:37:01,680 --> 01:36:25,360
please stay curious and keep it weird

2748
01:37:01,690 --> 01:37:14,709
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2749
01:37:14,719 --> 01:37:21,100
so